# A new record! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 2, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804 "2017-10-02T13:09:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/521 "2017-10-23T04:52:29Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > So, is it time to talk about gun control yet? [We were told](https://www.salon.com/2017/10/02/white-house-press-secretary-its-too-soon-for-gun-control/) that it was [“too soon”](http://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-senate-gun-control-update-2017-10) earlier. :rolleyes: No, the time to talk about will be in the thirty seconds between the next mass shooting and the GOP/NRA Spokesbeing of the Day getting on the air to say that “this isn’t the time to talk about it.” I wish I were joking. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/522 "2017-10-23T05:09:47Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > So, is it time to talk about gun control yet? [We were told](https://www.salon.com/2017/10/02/white-house-press-secretary-its-too-soon-for-gun-control/) that it was [“too soon”](http://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-senate-gun-control-update-2017-10) earlier. :rolleyes: Nah, the gun filth would like to push that off onto later generations, like what happened with the slavery issue. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/523 "2017-10-23T07:33:08Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Were you perhaps unaware that a [stick screwed to a wooden base](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojjcTv3QAbI) or even a lowly [rubber band](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx4cqBFmjtA), CAN assist the gun owner in bump firing? I asked what I thought was a legitimate question, which I’ll try to paraphrase for your edification: what sort of non-commercial improvised “gun hacks” do you think could possibly be addressed by bans? Yes, aware of those, thanks for checking, and the hooked hand technique as well. So, are you actually going to answer the question? I think it would be rude to just keep repeating it, but you seem to be dancing around it each time. How do you classify a rifle fitted with a bump stock? Is it still a semi-automatic? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/524 "2017-10-23T14:03:44Z")
Did anyone actually read the Obama’s Fast and Furious BATFE’s evaluation letter regarding the replacement shoulder stock for an AR-15 type rifle, or “bump-stock”? It states, “In order to use the installed device, the shooter must apply constant forward pressue with the non-shooting hand and constant rearward pressue with the shooting hand”. “Constant rearward pressue” does not sound like the shooter is firing one round with each individual pull of the trigger. What was Obama’s 2010 Fast and Furious BATFE thinking? Did they believe that if Mexican drug cartels should be given illegal purchased, and illegally delivered, firearms, why not allow persons whose hands have limited mobility to repeatedly fire a weapon with only a single application of constant pressure? Persons whose hands have limited mobility to “bump-fire” a rifle already have access to a firearm that will automatically reload the weapon after each individual pull of the trigger. It’s called a semi-auto firearm. It seems to me that this replacement shoulder stock for an AR-15 type rifle/bump-stock should have recieved a higher classification than it did. But I don’t make those decisions. [http://www.slidefire.com/downloads/BATFE.pdf](http://www.slidefire.com/downloads/BATFE.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/525 "2017-10-23T14:26:10Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > No, the time to talk about will be in the thirty seconds between the next mass shooting and the GOP/NRA Spokesbeing of the Day getting on the air to say that “this isn’t the time to talk about it.” > > I wish I were joking. Nah, the time to talk about it will be the 48 hours _before_ the _next_ mass shooting. The fact that we don’t know when that will be is of course our tough luck. My (sarcastic and bitter) line continues to be “has enough time elapsed since Newtown to talk about gun control yet? How about Virginia Tech?” (Insert other massacres in place of/in addition to those two as the mood strikes.) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/526 "2017-10-23T14:37:01Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Nah, the time to talk about it will be the 48 hours _before_ the _next_ mass shooting. > > The fact that we don’t know when that will be is of course our tough luck. > > My (sarcastic and bitter) line continues to be “has enough time elapsed since Newtown to talk about gun control yet? How about Virginia Tech?” (Insert other massacres in place of/in addition to those two as the mood strikes.) Don’t we have a mass shooting pretty much every day? So it’s always 48 before the next shooting. But it’s always too soon since the last. If we could just get people to stop killing each other for a week, we’d be able to discuss how to get people to stop killing each other. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/527 "2017-10-23T15:28:42Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > If we could just get people to stop killing each other for a week, we’d be able to discuss how to get people to stop killing each other. “But that would be wrong.” - Richard M. Nixon ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804/528 "2017-10-23T16:41:32Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > If we could just get people to stop killing each other for a week, we’d be able to discuss how to get people to stop killing each other. All of the \*civilized \*world has figured it out, and we know how, too. The question isn’t how, it’s _whether_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-record-u-s-a-u-s-a-u-s-a/797804.md?page=26)