# A new world

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 27, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843 "2013-09-27T23:03:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![misspawdle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@misspawdle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misspawdle)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/1 "2013-09-27T23:03:27Z")

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I would like to “HOPE” that a new world would come quick. Our Jails and Prisons are  
getting overcrowded. I would like to see America, like its Singapore and how they treat prisoners. Its called corporal punishment. They cane peoples bottoms. There economy isn’t so bad, and I agree no matter what age you are, if you can do the crime you can do the time. I think (depending on the offense) that there should be a point system in play for how many times a person is caned on the buttocks, male or female, ages 13 and older. For stealing, it should be 2 swats per buttock. If you are caught doing graffitti or damage property, it should be 3 swats per buttock. It would save tax payers money that way, and give the suspect a stinging bottom, to where they wish they never did a bad thing again. I would like to know if anyone agrees with me on this story idea I have. Thank you for your time reading this, and my email is [missnaomiblessing@gmail.com](mailto:missnaomiblessing@gmail.com)

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/2 "2013-09-27T23:06:22Z")

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Go away.

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**Author:** ![Krav\_Manga](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/krav_manga/32/3153_2.png) [@Krav\_Manga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krav_Manga)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/3 "2013-09-27T23:11:32Z")

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Each time you say ‘swat on the buttock’, I get a little more tingly.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/4 "2013-09-27T23:16:12Z")

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What happens to people who only have one buttcheek?

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/5 "2013-09-27T23:17:47Z")

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And now for something completely different: a man with three buttocks.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/6 "2013-09-27T23:32:08Z")

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This is a “Simpsons” troll, right?

Nothing like Jasper’s “[That’s a paddlin’](http://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/That%27s_a_paddlin%27)” to set 'em straight, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/7 "2013-09-27T23:32:39Z")

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> [@misspawdle](#):
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> I would like to know if anyone agrees with me on this story idea I have.

Cool story, bro.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/8 "2013-09-27T23:33:17Z")

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> [@Subterraneanus](#):
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> And now for something completely different: a man with three buttocks.

A born criminal.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/9 "2013-09-27T23:36:37Z")

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> [@Subterraneanus](#):
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> And now for something completely different: a man with three buttocks.

Wasn’t this in “Total Recall 2”? Or was that a Taco Bell induced nightmare?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/10 "2013-09-28T01:15:27Z")

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Robert Heinlein proposed something like that in (I believe) Starship Troopers. He said that you can get over a year in jail, but you never, ever, get over the pain and shame of a public whipping.

The fact that modern militaries have given up the use of flogging for offenses does not seem to have diminished their capability to win battles.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/11 "2013-09-28T01:36:21Z")

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**misspawdle** , you seem to have a odd fixation on people getting caned on their bottoms. You’re talking about _bare_ bottoms to give it that extra oomph of shame, right? You could have a nice sideline of this, but how do you look in black leather?

Also, you talk as if the Second Coming will reduce our prison population. Will a bunch of the prisoners get Raptured out? Because I’m pretty sure that’s not how the Rapture works.

ETA: I mean, unless you’re a Calvinist or Millerite of some sort, but I can’t make heads or tails of predestination.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/12 "2013-09-28T01:51:55Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What happens to people who only have one buttcheek?

Or _no_ buttcheeks? :eek:

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/13 "2013-09-28T02:03:36Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> The fact that modern militaries have given up the use of flogging for offenses does not seem to have diminished their capability to win battles.

Well, to be fair, if there’s a battle, then _someone_ is going to win it.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/14 "2013-09-28T02:08:14Z")

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> [@misspawdle](#):
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> I would like to “HOPE” that a new world would come quick. Our Jails and Prisons are  
> getting overcrowded. I would like to see America, like its Singapore and how they treat prisoners. Its called corporal punishment. They cane peoples bottoms. There economy isn’t so bad, and I agree no matter what age you are, if you can do the crime you can do the time. I think (depending on the offense) that there should be a point system in play for how many times a person is caned on the buttocks, male or female, ages 13 and older. For stealing, it should be 2 swats per buttock. If you are caught doing graffitti or damage property, it should be 3 swats per buttock. It would save tax payers money that way . . .

And **make** money, if the state sells the privilege of doing the caning. Several certain kinds of persons would pay a lot.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/15 "2013-09-28T02:09:47Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What happens to people who only have one buttcheek?

They have worse problems than getting caned.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/16 "2013-09-28T02:10:59Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Robert Heinlein proposed something like that in (I believe) Starship Troopers. He said that you can get over a year in jail, but you never, ever, get over the pain and shame of a public whipping.
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> The fact that modern militaries have given up the use of flogging for offenses does not seem to have diminished their capability to win battles.

Yet one is lately tempted to urge its reinstatement, at least for rape.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/17 "2013-09-28T03:58:56Z")

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Nah, the rope for rape.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/18 "2013-09-28T04:07:50Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Well, to be fair, if there’s a battle, then _someone_ is going to win it.

I’m desperately going through the random access files of my memory, trying to think of a battle which either both sides could be said to have won…or which both sides could be said to have lost.

I’m not coming up with any really good examples, but the battle of Shiloh, in the American Civil War, comes somewhat to mind. May the good Lord spare us ever winning another such battle as that!

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/19 "2013-09-28T04:10:20Z")

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what about the boot?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-world/669843/20 "2013-09-28T05:44:47Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I’m desperately going through the random access files of my memory, trying to think of a battle which either both sides could be said to have won…or which both sides could be said to have lost.
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> I’m not coming up with any really good examples, but the battle of Shiloh, in the American Civil War, comes somewhat to mind. May the good Lord spare us ever winning another such battle as that!

A classic [Pyrrhic victory](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory), perhaps?

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