# A note on the (now closed) thread

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 27, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884 "2007-02-27T16:26:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/261 "2007-03-01T04:26:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Oakminster]  
and you haven’t quite grokked that those lions ain’t gonna lay down beside you.  
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But… they’re fuzzy…and they’re cute…and they’re fuzzy…

pouts

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### Author: ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/262 "2007-03-01T04:26:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
You should, because the thread you got into all the trouble on was a direct result of that first thread, PRR’s “Thank You” thread, where Liberal behaved very badly. Your defense of him in Jim’s thread can’t hold much water if you don’t even know what he did to cause that Pit thread addressed to him.  
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Thank you, **Ruby** …you made my point much better than I did. All this nonsense about threads about cooking and flowers is totally beside the point…the two threads are directly related to each other, and if Quiddity had read the first one, she might have seen that. It would be so simple to go and read that first thread, to see if you can figure out what might be motivating people to flame out at **Liberal** , rather than just jumping in half-cocked, yelling about things you don’t know anything about. And denying that the two threads are related seems pretty crazy when you didn’t even read both of them! How would you know whether they were related or not?

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### Author: ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/263 "2007-03-01T04:26:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Ya know, I am trying to eliminate my own ignorance as to why people do the things they do.  
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Admit it. You’re a robot, aren’t you?

“What is this thing you hu-mans call…love?”

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/264 "2007-03-01T04:27:01Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Did you know Muffin can be euphemism for Cunny?

Jim  
[/QUOTE]  
Unfortunately, no one bothered to speak to my parents before they nick-named me Muffin. Given that I’m a guy, you think they would have found something more appropriate, but no, they liked the name Muffin.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), they were truly wonderful parents, so I won’t be putting anyting untoward on their tombstones despite their giving me Muffin.

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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/265 "2007-03-01T04:27:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
All I know at this point is you are remarkably dense as to matters of tone  
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You will note I was asking questions and I did actually get some answers, which I appreciate.

> [@](#):
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> Not necessarily. An attention whore may no enjoy the attention they receive, but they find any attention better than none. That appears to be a very accurate description of your behavior both in this thread and in the other one.

Yes, dear.

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### Author: ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/266 "2007-03-01T04:30:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]  
🙂 That was fun; I haven’t heard the song in ages.

It’s still apocryphal, however. Note the completely out of place Great Pumpkin reference.  
[/QUOTE]

The obvious solution is to get Red a Fokker and me a flying doghouse so we can battle it out. You get a 20% promoter’s fee for providing the vehicles and location, and he and I split the gate. I’ll even put him over on a screwjob in the first match…say he tampered with my fuel…and we book the rematch on PPV. I’ll go over clean, the fans go home happy, and we make some bank.

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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/267 "2007-03-01T04:31:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]  
The SDMB is a board, and the BBQ Pit is a forum of that board. At least that’s my terminology.  
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Thanks.

> [@](#):
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> Many posters live happy and fulfilling “words on a keyboard” lives on the SDMB without ever visiting the Pit. Just a thought.

I saw the thread where people discussed which forums they visited. Surprised then (but maybe not now) at how many said they avoided the Pit like the plague.  
Thing is, some Pittings are hilarious and over-the-top and clearly not meant to draw blood and they’re a hoot. Which is why I didn’t avoid the Pit before.

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### Author: ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/268 "2007-03-01T04:31:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Oh good lord. Somebody said four per cent was ‘miniscule’. I said no, four per cent is not ‘miniscule’ and made up a number to illustrate what would be considered ‘miniscule’. You have glommed onto that number like a barnacle and then went off on a tanget asking me questions as though I was using it to illustrate the number of people with ADD. I was not and do not intend to follow you down all the rabbit holes you keep wanting me to go down. Your question is irrelevant to the issue that was discussed and will continue to be. So cut. it. out.  
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This was your statement.

> [@](#):
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> It should be evident that it doesn’t matter. That some people with ADD are chronically tardy is all the information you need to allow that as a possible cause for your friend’s being late and to investigate that cause. Even if it’s .000009 per cent, your friend could be in that percentage and unless you know for sure, you can’t discount that possibilty.

This is my question. Is there anything else about which " Even if it’s .000009 per cent" applies? It is a yes/no question. If the answert is “no,” why not?

We do not need to examine the meaning of ‘minuscule.’ We do not need to stipulate whether the 4% figure is accurate, appropriate, significant, imaginary, or whatever the fuck. We do not need to know whether you were being hypothetical, analogical, hyperbolic, or whether you even have a fucking clue what the difference among those terms is. \*All we need to know _is whether,_ for \*_whatever reason you stated the words I quoted_, those words apply to _any other situation possible in the real world_. I gave you some examples (axe murderer, rapist, evangelical minister, politician) but feel free to come up with your own.

\*\*Is the situation, as you describe it, for whatever reasons you describe it thusly, unique, or are there any other situations that you would describe the same way? \*\*Yes or no. Do you understand? Do you think you can do this? It seems very simple to me. Why do you refuse to answer the question?

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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/269 "2007-03-01T04:35:08Z")

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[QUOTE=faithfool]  
The best example I can offer now comes from my own personal experience… I used to play softball (as a matter of fact, it was the heartbeat of my life) and our coach usually even got pissed if we won. Which is another story in and of itself. But anyway, our ‘after game’ talks typically had her deriding us for something/anything. And the absolutely most motherfucking annoying thing ever, was she’d say shit like; “If y’all aren’t going to give this 100 percent. If you don’t want to ever try, why are you here??” and it would hit those of us that gladly labored through 4 hours of practice weekly and played under insane conditions (broken limbs, missed weddings or funerals, etc.) as quite a slap in the face.  
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Thanks. I honestly didn’t realize most people would react that way. Me, I’d think ‘well, I’ve worked my butt off so you’re not talking about me’ or else figure she was talking tough thinking that it would make us want to do better but was full of hot air. But, apparently, I’m an oddball.

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### Author: ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/270 "2007-03-01T04:36:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
Unfortunately (or fortunately), they were truly wonderful parents, so I won’t be putting anyting untoward on their tombstones despite their giving me Muffin.  
[/QUOTE]  
That’s good to know, cause if you said you would do something like that, I’d be really down on you.

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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/271 "2007-03-01T04:37:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Then you’ll have to take my word for it that Liberal and others were doing to PRR exactly the kind of thing you decry when it’s done to Liberal.  
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I believe you. **Liberal** owned up to having been pretty unpleasant in his time. And I said to him I’d have words with him if ever I saw it.

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### Author: ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/272 "2007-03-01T04:38:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
Admit it. You’re a robot, aren’t you?

“What is this thing you hu-mans call…love?”  
[/QUOTE]  
Given her ability to maintain such high standards of interaction and avoid saying mean things, I’d suspect she was more human than human.

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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/273 "2007-03-01T04:38:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
Might want to consider reading all the posts in a thread before jumping to a conclusion – that way when you say something dumb, you at least can feel confident in knowing you did due diligence before putting your foot in it.  
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😕 I have no idea what you’re talking about. I read all the posts in the thread that I was in and upon which I remarked. There were about ten at that point.

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### Author: ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/274 "2007-03-01T04:40:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Yes, dear.  
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You keep posting these meaningless waste-of-pixel non-responses. I can’t figure it out.

Wait. You . . . you’re a Turing machine, aren’t you? You’re sending random comprehensible but content-free signals to sustain the illusion that you can converse. I can see no other explanation.

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/275 "2007-03-01T04:41:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Thanks. I honestly didn’t realize most people would react that way. Me, I’d think ‘well, I’ve worked my butt off so you’re not talking about me’ or else figure she was talking tough thinking that it would make us want to do better but was full of hot air. But, apparently, I’m an oddball.  
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Unfortunately, many people (that I’ve known) really don’t bother to acknowledge the differences and if you specifically ask them, like “How’d **faithfool** do in that game?,” the response you’d get is “They all suck! Nobody ever tries. I might as well just give up because they’re all so awful and uncoachable.” Even though, beyond a shadow of a doubt, she knew that wasn’t true and you could’ve been the only one to actually do everything right. Or whatever.

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### Author: ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/276 "2007-03-01T04:41:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
I believe you. **Liberal** owned up to having been pretty unpleasant in his time. And I said to him I’d have words with him if ever I saw it.  
[/QUOTE]  
Wow, well, I know I sure hope it doesn’t come to the point of you having words with **Liberal**!

But thanks for adopting the role of word-haver. We sure did need one around these parts, ma’am.

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/277 "2007-03-01T04:41:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
That’s good to know, cause if you said you would do something like that, I’d be really down on you.  
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Glad to hear it – I’d hate to be on the receiving end of a BM.

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### Author: ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/278 "2007-03-01T04:41:55Z")

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[QUOTE=faithfool]  
Excellent point **RedFury** about Twain and Poe. I’d been trying to think of a decent example for “attention whore,” but the best thing I could seem to come up with is what **START**. People always suspicious about whether or not his posting style mirrored reality and once when I thread became too hot, he dropped out and started another proclaiming the death of his brother. Now I have no idea if that was true or not, but given his history and the timing, it appears that it likely wasn’t.

However, that’s not nearly as cool as two literary giants. Damn, I’m just too SDMB myopic. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

First off, thank you kindly right off the bat. If 'd remember how to blush this might be a good time. Unfortunately, the only way I’m able to do so anymore is by holding my breath for as long as I possibly can. Not just silly, but rather awkward and down right stupid. Only took me fifty years to learn that latter part.

BTW, mighty fine post/advice of yours just a few above my own. No need for humbleness, you obviously carry a bit more than your head atop your neck.

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[QUOTE=Oakminster]  
Dammit, **Red**. You know I can’t agree with you. That would prolly trigger Doomsday, or worse.

Howabout I observe that in post #137, you are not entirely incorrect. And you’re less of an asshole than usual.

We remain mortal enemies of course. I’ll be playing Snoopy to your Red Baron.  
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Not to worry. The virtual fight is still on although I’d advice not even try to dream I’ll be wearing tights in it.

Entirely Snoopy’s territory – poor Snoopy BTW.

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
RedFury: I was loving you for this:

> [@Red](#):
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> _So, did everyone get their IMs, PMs BMs and/or BJs and totally satisfied with whatever the fuck was in them?_

And then you said this:

> [@Red](#):
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> Try reading Edgard Allen Poe

ARGH!!! This English teacher’s eyes are burning!  
[/quote]

And there goes my **one** fan on this Board! A thousand pardons ma’am :smack:

However I do have a twofold defense:

1-I’m not a native English language speaker

2-I tend to stick my fingers in all the wrong places. Whoa there! Wouldn’t want to be misinterpreted. I mean…I’m all thumbs

Take your pick…and give me back my extra “d.” Not like I am in the position to give my meager alphabet away!

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> [@Quiddity](#):
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> [Quote=Red]  
> And BTW, I’m not “defensive” about shit. OTOH, just in case you haven’t noticed my “tone” I’m being rather offensive towards your patronizing ways.

Sorry to disappoint, but I wasn’t offended. But, given that I was supporting you in the PNAC thread, I thought I might’ve gotten a point or two in my favour  
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Oh? And why is that? I’m not here to play tit-for-tat but rather to voice my opinion, as popular and/or unpopular as that might be.

In fact, I thought that was the premise of your whole “argument.” You know, treat everyone equally regardless of their past history.

You may, of course, PM, IM, MS or, preferably, BJ me the answer. And just so you know, I don’t disappoint that easily 'cept when it comes to BJs.

BTW, **Jodi** and I don’t pal around much either – in fact rather the opposite. But I’d be careful if I were you to tangle with her. She’s as lucid as they come.

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### Author: ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)
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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
😕 I have no idea what you’re talking about. I read all the posts in the thread that I was in and upon which I remarked. There were about ten at that point.  
[/QUOTE]  
The post of **Liberal’s** which was linked to in that OP was lengthy, and was from a lengthy Pit thread. It probably wouldn’t have been a bad idea to read the entire post, with all the posts **Liberal** linked to (there were many), to try to get a handle on the full context of what was going on before you make sweeping judgments. This is considered to be common courtesy, I think, even in the Pit forum.

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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-on-the-now-closed-thread/393884/280 "2007-03-01T04:44:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
You should, because the thread you got into all the trouble on was a direct result of that first thread, PRR’s “Thank You” thread, where Liberal behaved very badly. Your defense of him in Jim’s thread can’t hold much water if you don’t even know what he did to cause that Pit thread addressed to him.  
[/quote]

Look. Read slowly. I get that Lib has been a bad boy. What I have attempted to convey is that I do not grok why that entitles random people whose names are unremembered by me to attack **Lib** when he posts something which is not bad or nasty. It is a narrow question. It is not ‘why does the Pit exist?’ or ‘why are people allowed to use bad words’ or ‘why do people get indigestion?’. It was, specifically; even if you hate someone, must you attack that person when the person is not behaving badly at that moment.

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