# A note to men in the newspaper business: if your boss is the feminist Jill Abramson, you may be.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2014, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511 "2014-05-15T07:02:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/21 "2014-05-16T01:45:40Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > If you’re a man, you should be alarmed about feminist bullshit. They’re waging a war against you. “Hold on to your dicks, boys! Thems womyn folks are coming to take 'em away!” Bwahahahaha. Dude. Do any of your inane -ist threads _ever_ not backfire on you? Because right about now, I’m thinking you’re at least batting 0 for a dozen. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/22 "2014-05-16T13:56:14Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > If you’re a man, you should be alarmed about feminist bullshit. They’re waging a war against you. They’re not waging a war against me, ducky. They’re waging a war against _you_. I _want_ women to have the same opportunities I do. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/23 "2014-05-16T14:48:32Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > They’re not waging a war against me, ducky. They’re waging a war against _you_. I _want_ women to have the same opportunities I do. Whoa there, hoss! Best watch your tongue; **kstarnes** lives with his sweetheart and she might hear you. You don’t want to put any ideas into the little lady’s head. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/24 "2014-05-16T15:16:29Z")
> [@zweisamkeit](#): > > Whoa there, hoss! Best watch your tongue; **kstarnes** lives with his sweetheart and she might hear you. You don’t want to put any ideas into the little lady’s head. Yeah, heaven help him if she ever finds out women can wear shoes and leave the kitchen. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/25 "2014-05-16T15:18:04Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Yeah, heaven help him if she ever finds out women can wear shoes and leave the kitchen. 😕 Well, of course they can! High heels in the bedroom! ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/26 "2014-05-16T15:18:19Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Yeah, heaven help him if she ever finds out women can wear shoes and leave the kitchen. In that case I’m sure he would blame the ZioNazis who control NYC. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/27 "2014-05-16T15:21:42Z")
Dames. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/28 "2014-05-16T19:24:32Z")
Cliven, is that you? ---
**Author:** ![kstarnes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kstarnes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kstarnes)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/29 "2014-05-18T00:17:22Z")
If you’re reading this, and you’re in charge of hiring, you might think twice before hiring a woman for a top position (or any position.) > **[After Criticism, Times Publisher Details Decision to Oust Top Editor...](https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/business/times-publisher-denies-gender-figured-in-top-editors-dismissal.html?hp&_r=0)** > > In a statement on Saturday, Arthur Sulzberger Jr., the publisher of The New York Times, responded to a growing controversy over the firing of the newspaper’s executive editor, Jill Abramson, denying that gender figured in the decision in any way. If you have to fire her, you can expect a lot of headaches. The underlying message unfortunately seems to be, “think twice before you hire any woman.” You can’t dismiss her without causing an avalanche of accusations of sexism, misogyny, etc. ---
**Author:** ![kstarnes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kstarnes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kstarnes)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/30 "2014-05-18T00:23:57Z")
You can’t dismiss her without setting off an avalanche of criticisms and reprisals from feminist thugs. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/31 "2014-05-18T00:28:24Z")
Or hey, maybe you could fire her the same way you did the last one (letting her make the announcement, etc.) and not look like a clueless douchebag! ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/32 "2014-05-18T00:35:42Z")
You are an anti-Semitic, sexist, dimwitted, dumbass. Go the fuck away already. You should be forced to wear a big giant pink dick on your head warning women to avoid going within ten feet of you. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/33 "2014-05-18T00:37:39Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > If you’re reading this, and you’re in charge of hiring, you might think twice before hiring a woman for a top position (or any position.) > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/business/times-publisher-denies-gender-figured-in-top-editors-dismissal.html?hp&\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/business/times-publisher-denies-gender-figured-in-top-editors-dismissal.html?hp&_r=0) > > If you have to fire her, you can expect a lot of headaches. The underlying message unfortunately seems to be, “think twice before you hire any woman.” You can’t dismiss her without causing an avalanche of accusations of sexism, misogyny, etc. Go away. You are an ignorant fucktard. Shoo. Not wanted here. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/34 "2014-05-18T00:44:44Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > You are an anti-Semitic, sexist, dimwitted, dumbass. Go the fuck away already. You should be forced to wear a big giant pink dick on your head warning women to avoid going within ten feet of you. Why do you hate big giant pink dicks? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/35 "2014-05-18T00:56:05Z")
Dear OP, Stormfront misses you like crazy. You’re just casting your pearls before swine, here. Sincerely, Totally Legit Stormfront Representative ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/36 "2014-05-18T02:27:33Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > If you’re a man, you should be alarmed about feminist bullshit. They’re waging a war against you. All the men I know who hate women are failures. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/37 "2014-05-18T04:39:25Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > If you’re reading this …you have my sympathy; nobody other than **kstarnes** deserves to be subjected to this crap. > [@](#): > > and you’re in charge of hiring, you might think twice before hiring a woman for a top position (or any position.) Ouch. What happened, dude? Babysitter spank you one time? > [@kstarnes](#): > > You can’t dismiss her without setting off an avalanche of criticisms and reprisals from feminist thugs. I’m glad our society has gotten so polite and gentle that our thugs only criticize. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/38 "2014-05-18T04:48:27Z")
Yanno, I’d call you a humongous shithead, but that would be an insult to shitheads everywhere. So in lieu of that, I’ll just say that real life is simply not your forte. I bet even Stormfront is totally embarrassed of you. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/39 "2014-05-18T06:15:48Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > You can’t dismiss her without setting off an avalanche of criticisms and reprisals from feminist thugs. You just keep diggin’ there, moron. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511/40 "2014-05-18T06:24:08Z")
A cogent argument the OP is not. Bill Kristol and Maureen Dowd can write better ad hominem arguments than that while drunk off their asses. And they frequently do. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-men-in-the-newspaper-business-if-your-boss-is-the-feminist-jill-abramson-you-may-be/688511.md?page=3)