# A note to pchaos

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 11, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884 "2013-01-11T18:33:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/81 "2013-01-12T19:42:36Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> . . . If I’m in a car and I can’t hear the hum of the engine and I can’t feel the forward thrust of the car and I can’t see the trees moving past out the window; how do I know I’m moving? . . .

Why can’t you feel the forward thrust of the car?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/82 "2013-01-12T20:23:55Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> And if only **Czarcasm** had had the wisdom and restraint to post “Go fuck a cactus”, all would have been well.

You’re probably right. [WISHS](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15892170&postcount=91)(What I Should Have Said).

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/83 "2013-01-12T20:58:06Z")

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> [@ioioio](#):
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> Why can’t you feel the forward thrust of the car?

Presumably because it is moving at a constant speed rather than accelerating?

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/84 "2013-01-12T22:12:11Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> I just farted for a good 15 seconds. Yet strangely, my room still stinks less than this thread.

How dare anyone say you’re not the model of class and feminine decorum.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/85 "2013-01-13T02:06:22Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Fun fact, Hot Buttered Toast would be 23 now. I bet that makes y’all feel old.

Jeez. I was about to say, " isn’t she 18 now?" Now I feel even older.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/86 "2013-01-13T02:08:13Z")

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> [@ioioio](#):
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> Why can’t you feel the forward thrust of the car?

Because it’s a thought expiriment. If you want something more realistic; imagine yourself in an airplane. One does get the sense that they are moving forward but it sure as heck doesn’t feel like you’re moving at 550mph.

The reason why that is; you have nothing to reference your speed to.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/87 "2013-01-13T02:13:26Z")

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Okay, I don’t understand these Hot Buttered Toast references, and I want someone to explain them to me right goddamn now. :mad:

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/88 "2013-01-13T02:31:55Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Okay, I don’t understand these Hot Buttered Toast references, and I want someone to explain them to me right goddamn now. :mad:

Years ago Giraffe made a sexual reference to the aforementioned poster, only to find out she was only 13. I think it was in a thread started by Incubus and how toast (the good) saved the day.

[Here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=224544). Starts on post 8.  
Why do I still remember all this?😕

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/89 "2013-01-13T02:36:21Z")

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Oh, he knew she was 13…

Seriously now, got it, thanks!

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/90 "2013-01-13T05:28:05Z")

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So, what’s the abridged version of this thread? Gloves on or not? And if the latter, do I need a butler?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/91 "2013-01-13T13:28:17Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> So, what’s the abridged version of this thread? Gloves on or not? And if the latter, do I need a butler?

Only if he’s a monkey.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/92 "2013-01-13T18:32:31Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Because it’s a thought expiriment. If you want something more realistic; imagine yourself in an airplane. One does get the sense that they are moving forward but it sure as heck doesn’t feel like you’re moving at 550mph.
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> The reason why that is; you have nothing to reference your speed to.

Assuming this is a valid thought experiment, an omnipotent God could segue all existence for all potential beings in between two different experiences of ideal bliss (black bliss and white bliss, as a metaphor).

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/93 "2013-02-20T18:27:35Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Years ago Giraffe made a sexual reference to the aforementioned poster, only to find out she was only 13. I think it was in a thread started by Incubus and how toast (the good) saved the day.
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> [Here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=224544). Starts on post 8.  
> Why do I still remember all this?😕

Because it was one of _those_ threads that will live on forever. And rightly so.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/94 "2013-02-20T22:01:21Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> Assuming this is a valid thought experiment, an omnipotent God could segue all existence for all potential beings in between two different experiences of ideal bliss (black bliss and white bliss, as a metaphor).

[Galileo’s Dictum.](http://www.thedatasphere.com/galileosDictum.htm)

Which is a good metaphor for this thread. I can’t tell if this pitting is moving against the grain of the board, or if the board is rushing against this pitting like a lynch mob.

It’s all equivalent in the end, it would seem.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/95 "2013-02-20T22:12:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Yes, Mother.  
> Sorry, Mother.

You are actually making me feel a slight lessening of my disdain towards **pchaos**. Stop it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/96 "2013-02-20T22:25:18Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> You are actually making me feel a slight lessening of my disdain towards **pchaos**. Stop it.

Tht was almost a month and a half ago, y’know.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/97 "2013-02-20T22:37:01Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Because it was one of _those_ threads that will live on forever. And rightly so.

You are making me look bad by reviving month-old zombie threads. Stop it.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/98 "2013-02-20T23:27:33Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> I am laughing my ass off at the visual of C **boldly** uncapping a Drano bottle, orchestra building to a crescendo behind him.

Yeah, but they weren’t playing in B Minor, so we all knew nothing was going to happen.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/99 "2013-02-21T02:49:51Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Tht was almost a month and a half ago, y’know.

Are you still here?

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-note-to-pchaos/646884/100 "2013-02-21T10:52:24Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> [Galileo’s Dictum.](http://www.thedatasphere.com/galileosDictum.htm)

Thanks for the information. I knew about the train analogy of special relativity, but not that the concept derived from Galileo. I suppose the issue is with whether the analogy applies to human emotions (which raises the question of what one is supposed to experience in heaven) and the fact that there are exterior frames or reference in both cars and aeroplanes.

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