# A parting gift for the homophobes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 6, 2002, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299 "2002-09-06T15:34:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/101 "2002-09-07T15:52:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*It sure is easy to blindly quote rules at people without caring about the reasons why they were instituted in the first place, isn’t it? \*\* Yes. Now cut it out. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/102 "2002-09-07T16:07:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by His4ever \* > **Actually, no, I wasn’t thinking of the aids issue. I was talking about the manner in which 2 male gays have sex (aside from oral and masturbation). They must use the rectum and the rectum wasn’t designed for sexual intercourse, it was designed for waste products to leave the body. Not for things to be inserted into it. How healthy can that be?** I don’t know how the gays do it, but the way I do it is pretty fun. And lot’s of gay men DO NOT PRACTICE ANAL SEX!!! So is it gay sex, or just anal sex that your against? > [@](#): > > \*\* > Quote - > > "Homosexuals are often the victims of exotic infections. > \*\* Blah, blah, blah… Heterosexuals get some funky diseases, too. I’ve got a book on the subject. There are one or two others available.:rolleyes: Sex between any two people is a pretty risky proposition. From a hygeine standpoint it’s, well, _nasty!!!_ For straights AND gays. If we really thought about it, we wouldn’t do it. Who am I kidding? We would too… ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/103 "2002-09-07T16:09:00Z")
RTF, I just reread my post and realized it might sound abrasive. I didn’t mean to come across that way, so if I did, I’m sorry. I do, however, have one other thing to say: We, as Americans, have the right to try to legislate whatever we want, as long as it’s in line with the Constitution. That’s the beauty of a Democratic Republic. However, I haven’t seen anybody advocate legislation against gays. I saw gobear (normally a lucid and rational person) turn rabid and drooling over how Christians supposedly want him tarred, feathered, burned at the stake, and fired from his job for being gay, but if somebody said that’s how it should be, I must have missed it. I have seen people like His4Ever and JerseyDiamond say that homosexual behavior (the actions, not the urge, Iampunha) is a sin according to the bible, and I agree. But nobody has advocated persecution and attacks against anybody - at least not that I’ve seen. The only attacks I’ve seen in this thread are from the **tolerant** , **rational** , and intelligent people: > [@](#): > > You’re being relegated to the dumpster of ideological history, along with flat-earthers and moon hoax believers, and I think you’ll find yourself right at home there. As the prevalence of your attitude recedes, leaving little islands of ignorance behind it, I like to think of groups of homophobes banding together in fortresses barricaded against the evils of the outside world, muttering about the perils of gay people in dark, damp bunkers while outside, the rest of the world revels in its newfound freedom. – **Mr. Visible** > [@](#): > > Fuck you too, pal. – **ultrafilter** > [@](#): > > Go peddle your superstitious, wrong-headed claptrap elsewhere. **Eve** > [@](#): > > And we’ll think for you. > > I swear, if that woman set foot in a library, her head would melt. – **gobear** > [@](#): > > Ladies and gentlemen, take a look at her. Look long at her words, her pretentious piousness, her backwards attitude couched in dogmatic certainty. She’s a creature of the past, a fossil in the making, and though we won’t miss her, she and her kind should be remembered, as we don’t want to have to go through all this again. > > I have no doubt that this brand of belief will persist, in tiny gatherings of like-minded bigots, as has every hate group pretty much ever. It’s going to be fun to watch as they’re mocked, derided, and called out for believing in this kind of hateful bile. Welcome to the margins of society, H4E. – **Mr. Visible** again. > [@](#): > > Oh, and His4Ever, Jesus loves you, but everybody else seems to think you’re an asshole. – **Baldwin** > [@](#): > > Girlfriend, you are so full of shit it flows out of yer ears… or mouth. – **Krisfer the Cat** > [@](#): > > Don’t let the doorknob hit you in the ass; you know what that might represent. – **Daojawan** > [@](#): > > Fuck you! It’s people like you who preach about how awful gay people are that encourages gaybashing. It’s people like you who make it legal to fire me for being gay, to evict me for being gay, to treat me as less than equal, less than human because I’m gay. > > You fundies are the American Taliban. You are our bin Laden. You are the forces of evil. – **gobear** once more > [@](#): > > Oh, fuck off already, you sanctimonious toad. Go peddle your holier-than-thou bullshit somewhere else. – **Ferrous** > [@](#): > > If my choice is between being called a name and having some sanctimonious no-nothing gratuitiously “disapprove” of my “lifestyle,” go ahead and call me a name. – **Jodi** Hmmm…maybe I’m missing something if that’s loving and Jersey and His4Ever and I are hateful. > [@](#): > > **What I’m trying to say is that it’s not cool for you to be so condeming when we’re supposed to love each other with the love of God. I mean aern’t you a sinner? Do you do things daily that God says not to do? I sure do and I sure wouldn’t appreciate someone going around preaching to me about every little thing I do. _Especially_ if I didn’t even follow their line of beliefs. Is this making sense?** As I said above, nobody is condemning gay people. But I know that Jesus didn’t call us to be “cool” and make everybody happy. But I could be wrong…let’s double check, shall we? > [@](#): > > Matthew 10:32-39 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. > > **Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.** > > He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. > [@](#): > > Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Nope, nothing about being “cool”. …Unless you have a different version than I do? ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/104 "2002-09-07T16:12:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > It sure is easy to blindly quote rules at people without caring about the reasons why they were instituted in the first place, isn’t it? Ladies and Gentlemen, the Hoist-by-your-own-petard, I-can’t-believe-they-just-said-that, straight supremacist quote of the week! Marvel at the irony, and be afraid. So, what’s the score now? Straight supremacists - 0 Rational human beings - 388,837,283,274 I guess, since they won’t leave the field, we can just keep pounding them, but it seems kinda cruel; they obviously have no idea how to play the game. I don’t think they even know they’re losing. ---
**Author:** ![Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krisfer_the_Cat)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/105 "2002-09-07T16:49:45Z")
WOO HOOO!!! I got noticed in someone elses post! I swoon! Holy Moley I finally said something someone that was worth noticing!!! _writes this down on the calendar_ of course it was my one and only nasty irrational comment in this thread… but cant have everything can I? ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/106 "2002-09-07T17:03:31Z")
> [@](#): > > I put my credibility here on the line… Well, speaking personally, I don’t see where you did anything of the sort. Going waaay back to the OP, I like the proposed new term. I’m going to start using it instead of homophobe where applicable. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/107 "2002-09-07T17:13:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > > > [@](#): > > > > Besides, as others have pointed out, there’s some disagreement as to what the full rule set is. We’re all picking and choosing, based on our mortal understanding, which of the Biblical rules God really means. > > True, but the bible, in both Old and New Testaments, appears to be quite clear regarding the sinfulness of sexual immorality – both homo and hetero. If a person chooses not to accept the bible’s authority, fine. The problem is, the Bible says other things that Christians choose not to be bound by. That seems to be true regardless of denomination; the only question is whether they admit it or whether they use one of a number of rationalizations. For instance: > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Does your house have a rail around the roof, to keep people from falling off? Mine doesn’t either. > > I have a question - are you also in the habit of entertaining on your roof? The ancient Israelites were. As a matter of fact, it was quite common to have your family and friends hanging out on the roof of the house (You’ve noticed, I’m sure, the story where the crippled guy’s friends lower him through the roof to get him to Jesus, right?). Hence the need for a railing on the roof. Special needs change. Right and wrong do not. The problem is, the “special needs” examption is stated nowhere in the Bible that I’ve ever heard of. I’m assuming that either you made that up, or someone else in post-Biblical times did. This seems to be one element of a set of extra-Scriptural set of rules for judging Scripture, of man’s devise. [rant] Someday I want to see the complete set of these rules, but fundies only trot out one such rule or another as it applies to a particular discussion, so there’s never a time when I feel I’m discussing Scripture on even terms with a fundie. I want the Secret Handshake that will get Pat Robertson’s minions, or some functionary on the Southern Baptist Convention Sunday School Board, to reveal the entire list to me. [/rant] > [@](#): > > RTF, I just reread my post and realized it might sound abrasive. I didn’t mean to come across that way, so if I did, I’m sorry. Apology accepted. > [@](#): > > I do, however, have one other thing to say: We, as Americans, have the right to try to legislate whatever we want, as long as it’s in line with the Constitution. That’s the beauty of a Democratic Republic. You do have the _Constitutional_ right. I made reference to the _moral_ right. > [@](#): > > However, I haven’t seen anybody advocate legislation against gays. Over the past two decades or so, I’ve watched conservative Christians in Virginia, South Carolina, and Georgia fight tooth-and-nail to preserve laws making homosexual sodomy a crime. And then turn around and say “So-and-so (a gay or lesbian) isn’t morally fit to hold such-and-such a state office, because they’d have to promise to uphold the laws, which they continually violate, being in a gay/lesbian relationship.” There’s also a ton of times when conservative Christians have fought against gay marriage or other legal recognition of gay unions, when they’ve fought against state and local governments extending spousal benefits to gay partners, when they’ve fought against including “sexual orientation” in the list of outlawed reasons to discriminate against someone in employment, housing, etc. And on the national level, there’s the Defense of Marriage Act. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/108 "2002-09-07T17:28:11Z")
And that justifies the savage attitude shown in this thread towards specific individuals who had nothing to do with any of that? ---
**Author:** ![dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dreamer)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/109 "2002-09-07T17:55:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > > Nope, nothing about being “cool”. > > …Unless you have a different version than I do? Then let me retract the word “cool” and exchange it with loving and forgiving. And **Joe\_Cool** , would you please come into [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=134384) thread and give me your take? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/110 "2002-09-07T17:56:47Z")
**Joe** , I can clearly see your point. Neither you, **Jersey** , nor **His4Ever** have advocated in this thread (or anywhere else I know of) those things that **RT** highlighted. However, neither have you spoken out against the people that would enact into law the prohibitions of Scripture (as you read them) against gay people. It has been those who quote the Bible against gay people who have been insistent that equal rights under the Constitution are not appropriate for them – and before you get angry, neither of us is at risk of losing our job for desiring to fall in love with, have sex with, and marry women, nobody is prepared to throw us out of the property we rent or own because of our sex lives, nobody (sane, anyway) is suggesting that our commitment to the person we love should be considered a travesty of American values, etc. These are all advocated by outspoken people who have said the things the three of you have said. Do you wonder that people on the other side of the argument are angry with you for identifying with those outspoken people? If you choose to believe that having gay sex offends God more than the hatred those outspoken people show, and that it’s your responsibility to Him to tell gay people that, that’s your business. If you choose to ally yourself with the people who advocate civil disabilities for being gay, then you have gone beyond the pale. And what has been said to date suggests that you are doing that allying, and you have said nothing to refute it. As a challenge (and I’ll bear the responsibility for asking you to do so if you feel witnessing in the Pit is against board rules), what would you say to **gobear** or **Mr Visible** about why they ought to become Christians (assuming for the nonce that they are now not)? That is what I asked above, and I ask again. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/111 "2002-09-07T18:11:14Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by His4ever_ > A person has no choice in what race he’s born, be it black or whatever. Skin color is a physical characteristic that cant’ be changed whereas homosexuality is a behavioural choice. I don’t really see how you can compare the two, skin color can’t be changed, behaviour can. So what about the gay man who remains celibate? Is he, like, un-gay because he doesn’t engage in any “homosexual acts”? As a matter of fact, we’ve got such a man on this board, though I think it’d be pretty hard to coax him into this thread. Oh. One other question for you. As I think I’ve mentioned to you before, I’m bisexual. Does that mean, to you, that my attraction to women is automatic and my attraction to men is something I’ve taught myself? And if that is true, then how do you explain that I first realized my sexuality when I was **extremely** sexually attracted to a man in a movie? I wasn’t asked “Now, come on, **punha** , you find him attractive, right? Right?;)” Oh, as for skin color not being able to be changed … ::resists the urge to jokingly bring up Michael Jackson:: ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/112 "2002-09-07T18:15:49Z")
If I may, I’d like to thank some of the wonderful posters who have been debating here. I’m a coward- as a gay Christian, I’ve gotten a lot of flack from both sides for my life and so I have an anathema towards discussing my faith, which I constantly wrestle with. Around here I tend to feel out of my league anyway. And, well, it’s nice to know that there are people here who are willing to cover for my silence. So thank you. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/113 "2002-09-07T18:25:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > **Joe** , I can clearly see your point. Neither you, **Jersey** , nor **His4Ever** have advocated in this thread (or anywhere else I know of) those things that **RT** highlighted. Wrong, **Poly**. Check out page 1, where **His4ever** spake thusly: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by His4ever_ > You’re right in that I fall into the category of opposing gay rights by reason of my faith. ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/114 "2002-09-07T19:18:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by His4ever \* > \*\*Oh, and I’d like to say something about the continued reference to blacks comparing it with homosexuality. IMHO it’s a faulty comparison. \*\* Well gee, there’s a shock. > [@](#): > > **A person has no choice in what race he’s born, be it black or whatever.** A person has no choice as to what sexuality they are born with, either. Let me say this with very simple words, so that your enfeebled, cult-whore mind can understand: _ **I am gay, but I never chose to be gay.** _ Anyone who says “gay people choose to be gay” is lying scum. You don’t get to choose you love in this life. > [@](#): > > **Skin color is a physical characteristic that cant’ be changed whereas homosexuality is a behavioural choice.** Being gay is a condition, not an action. Its WHO YOU ARE not WHAT YOU DO. I’m sitting here typing at my iMac, and I’m just as gay now as I would be were I having sex. Of course, maybe my vocabulary is too advanced for you. Perhaps there’s a “Gays Don’t Choose It” pop up book somewhere that’s more your speed. Kirk ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/115 "2002-09-07T19:26:10Z")
You use an iMac? That is _soooo_ gay! ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/116 "2002-09-07T19:32:54Z")
[tangent] A flat screen iMac, an iBook and an iPod, actually. I had a PowerBook, but it got stolen in Paris, so I replaced it with the iBook. Both computers are running Jaguar, naturally. [/tangent] ---
**Author:** ![Mitchey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/54ee81/32.png) [@Mitchey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mitchey)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/117 "2002-09-07T19:40:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by His4ever \* > \*\*Oh, and I’d like to say something about the continued reference to blacks comparing it with homosexuality. IMHO it’s a faulty comparison. A person has no choice in what race he’s born, be it black or whatever. Skin color is a physical characteristic that cant’ be changed whereas homosexuality is a behavioural choice. I don’t really see how you can compare the two, skin color can’t be changed, behaviour can. \*\* The thing you don’t understand is that being gay is something you can’t understand. Just like a white person cannot fully understand what it’s like to be black. You can’t understand what it’s like to be gay. You think of it as some sort of sexual deviance someone decides to do. If you think it’s a choice that someone easily selects YOUR CRAZY! Why do you think that gay teenagers have the highest suicide rate of any demographic? IT’S TIME TO WAKE UP! OUR CHILDREN ARE DYING! Because people like you are telling them they are evil, deviants that are going to Hell! Can you imagine what it’s like to be a teenager talking to one of your friends who’s telling you about some hot girl (or boy in your case I think you’re a woman aren’t you?) and all your thinking about is how hot your friend is? Or how you’ll never be truly able to show the love you feel for him/her? Well I can, and it wasn’t a choice I made. . You don’t wake up one day and decide your gay, you wake up and accept it. Why would anyone choose to be hated, feared, or discriminated against? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/118 "2002-09-07T19:42:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > And that justifies the savage attitude shown in this thread towards specific individuals who had nothing to do with any of that? Whoa, friend! How about if I hold you responsible only for your own words, and you do the same for me? I apparently misinterpreted one thing you said above. When you said, “I haven’t seen anybody advocate legislation against gays,” I assumed you meant _in general_, rather than _in this thread_. I should’ve picked up your meaning from the context. But that’s why I gave you that long list, rather than simply citing **H4E** as **minty** did. FWIW, I think that litany of anti-gay legislation certainly helps explain, if not justify, the anger of gays and their friends toward those such as **H4E** who believe it is morally legitimate to legislate against equal rights for gays on the basis of the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![Mitchey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/54ee81/32.png) [@Mitchey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mitchey)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/119 "2002-09-07T19:48:05Z")
BTW Just one more thing. If God sends me to hell for the way He made me, I hope I don’t get stuck in the room Jesse Helms is in. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299/120 "2002-09-07T19:51:54Z")
His4ever > [@](#): > > I ask His forgiveness, determine not to do it again and move on. That’s different than deliberately doing something over and over and over and knowing in my heart it’s wrong. Perhaps there is no greater sin than to place the burdens of your own heart upon the shoulders of others. And yet you do this over and over. Deliberately. You remind me of the Pharisee who prayed thanking God that he was not like the sinners. Wake up, my sister! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-parting-gift-for-the-homophobes/127299.md?page=7)