# A perfected Jew

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375 "2007-10-11T19:36:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/41 "2007-10-11T21:31:09Z")

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[QUOTE=brownie55]  
I’d link to my picture, but modesty forbids…  
[/QUOTE]  
So does ‘perfected’ imply that you weren’t perfect to begin with, but the plastic surgery was a success? 😃

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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/42 "2007-10-11T21:34:19Z")

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[QUOTE=jtgain]  
Doesn’t every Christian believe this?

I don’t mean to sound daft, but if a person calls himself/herself a Christian, doesn’t he believe that a person MUST come to believe in Christ or suffer an eternity in hell? This would mean Jews, Muslims, non-believers, etc?

Instead of bashing Ann Coulter, why not bash all of Christianity (or the other religions for that matter?)  
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Well some of us more liberal ones quote Christ saying “I have other sheep” to mean that all will go to heaven one way or another.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/43 "2007-10-11T21:36:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Noone Special]  
… And, I might say, untrue, to boot! ( 😉 to **Mika** )  
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Cite?

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/44 "2007-10-11T21:39:56Z")

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[QUOTE=jtgain]  
Doesn’t every Christian believe this?  
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Only ones who need perfecting.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/45 "2007-10-11T21:41:52Z")

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[QUOTE=jjimm]  
Cite?  
[/QUOTE]  
[She’s in there.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431912&highlight=picture+thread)

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/46 "2007-10-11T21:44:06Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
Would you mind explaining this? I’ve read it over three times and I can’t seem to parse it in any way that doesn’t make you into a flaming asshole.  
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Already perfect? (safe from having to be perfected?)

Well, like me of course… 🆒

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/47 "2007-10-11T21:44:24Z")

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With all the links to Perfected Jews, I thought we could use a [Perfected Jewess.](http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/natalie-portman/pictures/natalie-portman-picture-6.jpg)

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/48 "2007-10-11T21:57:16Z")

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I’m so confused! What did \*\*snake oil \*\*say that was mean? I thought Anaamika was saying she was worried her penis would turn into a dragon, and the response was, “You’re not jewish, you have no penis; don’t worry”

Where is the insult? _WHAT AM I MISSING?!?!?_

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/49 "2007-10-11T21:57:36Z")

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I can certainly understand why Jews would take offense to her comments, but I’m a Christian, and I’m a bit more peeved about what she said about _my_ religion.

> [@Anne Coulter](#):
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> Well, it’s a lot easier. It’s kind of a fast track. \<snip\> We have the fast track program.

“Fast track?” What does she think Christianity is? The 10 sins or less line at the celestial grocery store? And as far as “easy”, if she would stop tallying all the money she made off of her hate filled books and actually pick up the bible she might realize that it’s not _easy_.

Mz. Coulter, if for some bizarre reason you’re reading this, Matthew, Mark, and Luke all relate a quote from Jesus that you need to take to heart “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”:

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**Author:** ![Li\_l\_Pluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@Li\_l\_Pluck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Li_l_Pluck)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/50 "2007-10-11T22:04:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
How did she know you were gay?  
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Well, to be honest, once you speak with me for a length of time (length=X=unspecified, mostly), the fact that I’m gay = the sun rises in the East, y’know? To wit:

1. One concludes that, because I don’t speak like the “typical” Black man that they’ve encountered (usually via TV or forays–drug buying? 😉 --into the ghetto), I must be gay. (Believe me, this really happens, though, as near as I can gather, usually only with certain Black and Hispanic men who perhaps aren’t that used to interacting with non-ghettofied Black men. Or, they sense something in me that they know to be true of themselves, even if they’re keeping it secret from everyone else. Or maybe because some people might think that I talk/act “White,” and since, for them, Black man talking/acting “White” = must be gay. Just a few WAGs. Or, some people–mostly women, IME, are really, \*really \* perceptive about this kind of stuff. That’s happened, too.)

2. We might be talking about something (say, relationships–especially long-distance ones–or spending time overseas), and because it’s relevant, I’ll mention something about my ex-husband (who is Swiss, and is the primary reason I used to travel to Switzerland).

Y’know–stuff like that. In this case, though, my being gay was (and, still, generally is) common knowledge among my co-workers (though this woman joined our group later on), so it’s likely that it just came out in general conversation (though I did confirm my status when I asked her what JW’s believe WRT homosexuality).

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/51 "2007-10-11T22:12:55Z")

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[QUOTE=miss elizabeth]  
I’m so confused! What did \*\*snake oil \*\*say that was mean? I thought Anaamika was saying she was worried her penis would turn into a dragon, and the response was, “You’re not jewish, you have no penis; don’t worry”

Where is the insult? _WHAT AM I MISSING?!?!?_  
[/QUOTE]  
My thought was that she did the leg crossing thing at the idea of a guy with a dragon penis, and **snake oil** ’s remark was essentially “I’ve seen your picture _[and you’re ugly]_. You don’t need to worry.”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/52 "2007-10-11T22:14:53Z")

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What One said, in fewer words.

Except I took it and the follow on joke to be a reference to anatomy rather than looks.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/53 "2007-10-11T22:17:08Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> [QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
> Just make sure it’s green kryptonite, not red. Otherwise SuperJew’s little penis will just turn into a dragon or something.

:::crosses legs:::  
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[It had to be linked to.](http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html)

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/54 "2007-10-11T22:17:39Z")

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I’m wondering how a guest saw her picture at all. Has there been a pic thread lately? 😕 If not, that’s a little bit creepy.

I hope he just meant he doesn’t think she has a penis.

Though it has been known to ensue…

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/55 "2007-10-11T22:22:21Z")

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Incidentally, what I’m still curious about is what the hell Ann Coulter was talking about with her bit about Federal Express.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/56 "2007-10-11T22:48:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Bricker]  
If the generic Christian belief is true, then Jews are at risk of not entering heaven by not accepting Christ as their Savior. This is not a new viewpoint, nor is it particularly controversial.  
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Within Christianity, not all that controversial. Outside of it, it most certainly is.

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**Author:** ![snake\_oil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@snake\_oil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snake_oil)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/57 "2007-10-11T23:04:21Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
My thought was that she did the leg crossing thing at the idea of a guy with a dragon penis, and **snake oil** ’s remark was essentially “I’ve seen your picture _[and you’re ugly]_. You don’t need to worry.”  
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precisely

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/58 "2007-10-11T23:07:37Z")

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Hoo boy.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/59 "2007-10-11T23:10:16Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
I used to hear the expression “_completed_ Jews” for those that had accepted Christ as their savior. Which at least made some weak sort of sense: to whatever extent that Jews are theoretically waiting on a Messiah, they could be said to be ‘completed’ by accepting that their Messiah was already here.

But ‘perfected’?? Christians don’t believe accepting Christ makes them perfect, so WTF is _that_ about?  
[/QUOTE]  
Actually, I think the word “perfected” is parallel to the part of speech and means “completed” in the sense of pluperfect.

(I’m open to correction from some member of a Christian denomination that holds the “perfected” belief, but that was my understanding.)

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/60 "2007-10-11T23:17:34Z")

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Maybe she meant that Federal Express is an improvement on the U.S. Mail? I got nothing.

(Hoo boy, indeed!)

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