# A perfected Jew **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375 "2007-10-11T19:36:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Li\_l\_Pluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@Li\_l\_Pluck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Li_l_Pluck)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/141 "2007-10-13T15:46:33Z")
[QUOTE=Cartooniverse] Word around town is that he uses it to get good seats at shows. šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Maus Magil[/QUOTE] > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Liā€™l Pluck > Quote: > Originally Posted by pool > Because Liā€™l Pluck prefaces all conversations with ā€œIā€™m a gay, black, jewā€. > > {snip} > > Oh, and you forgot ā€œatheistā€. Dude - youā€™re like your own demographic. [/QUOTE] Heh. _Chaver_, I barely have enough time these days to _sleep_, and you think I have time for a show?! To say nothing of the the need to sell your first-born so that you could afford to to to some of these things. (Remember, Iā€™m in the NY Metro area. Iā€™m sure that, being experienced with NYC yourself, you know the deal.) I will say, though, that Iā€™d be happy if it always got me empty seats next to me when I fly so that I could stretch out my 6ā€™ frameā€“so, okay, fetal-position myselfā€“for the occasional nap on long flights. šŸ™‚ Iā€™d never thought of it that way, **MM**. Kinda cool. (Though I _do \* have a friend whoā€™s an Afro-Hispanic, gay Jew. Donā€™t know if heā€™s an atheist, though, as Iā€™ve never asked him. Good guy, too. And heā€™s just as cute as he wants to be.) Not, mind you, that this has been appreciated in most regards. Hell, it hasnā€™t even helped me pay for college. Now, if I were at Berkeleyā€¦ ._ \*Anyone whoā€™s familiar with the Berkeley application circa 1997 (I donā€™t know if itā€™s the same today), will know what Iā€™m talking about. ā€œAre you a Mongolian-Lithuanian, lesbian socialist?ā€ etc. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Li\_l\_Pluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@Li\_l\_Pluck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Li_l_Pluck)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/142 "2007-10-13T16:12:25Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] [QUOTE=Cartooniverse] Word around town is that he uses it to get good seats at showsā€¦ [/QUOTE] But kvetches out loud if isnā€™t fabulous. [/QUOTE] Heh-heh-heh. Hey, man, what with all the shit Iā€™ve got going on, I try \*really \* hard not to draw any undue attention to my unconventional ass! ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/143 "2007-10-13T16:36:57Z")
> [@](#): > > If we took away womenā€™s right to vote, weā€™d never have to worry about another Democrat president," Coulter told The New York Obs Makes me wonder how all them Democrats got elected President before 1920. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/144 "2007-10-13T17:03:15Z")
[QUOTE=LVgeogeek] The only thing I thought when I read this is ā€œkeep her in line with what? A chair and a whip?ā€ [/QUOTE] Maybe, but Iā€™d recommend a Hazmat Suit as well. The face of Ann Coulter could make Dildos _Scree_ in fearā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/145 "2007-10-13T18:24:54Z")
Am I the only one who thinks she looks like shes developing an eating disorder? ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/146 "2007-10-13T19:45:46Z")
I think food is just terrified of Ann Coulter. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/147 "2007-10-13T20:27:34Z")
Jews would have a somewhat better life in Coulter Country because they donā€™t have s country that doesnā€™t like the US. Remember her screed on [Muslims:](http://www.therationalradical.com/diatribes/ann_coulter.htm) > [@](#): > > Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. > > We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We werenā€™t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. Thatā€™s war. And this is war. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/148 "2007-10-13T22:11:33Z")
[QUOTE=Sitnam] Am I the only one who thinks she looks like shes developing an eating disorder? [/QUOTE] I think that famous Madamā€™s apple of hers is actually a bite of food, stuck in her throat and preventing her from eating for the past 20 years. If someone would just give that bitch the Heimlich maneuver, sheā€™d turn out looking like King Kong Bundy inside of six months. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/149 "2007-10-13T22:49:12Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Just speaking for myself here, **Bricker** , but if God had commanded me to stretch my son out on a rock and slice him open, I would have told Him to go fuck Himself. Verily. [/QUOTE] I can relate. Pisses me off when you tell me what my kid has to learn in school, even without a fraction of Godā€™s claim on her. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/150 "2007-10-13T22:51:10Z")
Mr. George Clooney Hollywood, California Dear Sir: I am, sir, an admirer of your many cinematic acheivements, as well as your many progressive efforts in the political realm. It is in this regard I approach, knowing you to be a man willing to make the needful sacrifice for the common good, however distasteful, even horrific, the prospect. I am also aware that, being quite wealthy, you can afford a substantial amount of drugs. Sufficient, I am sure, to wipe even the most repulsive memory from mind. Are you sitting down? Please, if you would, before reading further. Would it be possible for you to fuck Ann Coulter? Several times, if need be? Bump uglies, slip her the pork sword, dance the fandango horizontal? I realize this is an alarming prospect, and hasten to assure you that I would not seek such a sacrifice from you were it not so urgently needed. By her, to be sure, but the rest of us just as surely. I would venture the duty myself, of course, but I am advised that my physical charms are modest, at best, and even my dearest would knife me in my sleep if it would bring her within bone-jumping range to you. You are the man for the job, sir, and stern duty calls! Strap on your shining armor, and griddle your loins! ā€œOnce more into the breach, dear friend, once more!ā€ I wait in hopeful anticapation. Your obedient servant and etc. **e.** ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/151 "2007-10-13T23:00:15Z")
I must ask you this, **elucidator:** why do you hate George Clooney? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/152 "2007-10-13T23:06:08Z")
I should have thought that rather obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/153 "2007-10-13T23:16:00Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] I should have thought that rather obvious. [/QUOTE] Nah, I just wondered if there was another reason besides that one. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/154 "2007-10-13T23:17:40Z")
Well, sure. Godzillaā€™s not the only lizard, but stillā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/155 "2007-10-13T23:32:58Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] ā€œOnce more into the breach, dear friend, once more!ā€ [/QUOTE] Once _more_? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/156 "2007-10-14T01:19:54Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] In order to seek something, you need to know what it is youā€™re seeking. In this case, itā€™s ok (I would guess) if youā€™re just seeking out the possibility of God. But I would argue that following the will of God in particular requires knowledge of Jesus, since heā€™s so intricately tied into the belief system. [/quote] Not at all. Jesus Himself said the Greatest Commandment was to love God with your whole heart and to love your neighbor as yourself ā€“ a sentiment that has popped up in basic form in other religions. Itā€™s perfectly possible to follow the will of God, and to lead a life that an objective observer would characterize as good, without any knowledge of Jesus at all. > [@](#): > > Look at it this way; imagine you removed all reference to Jesus from your belief system. As you go about your life now, are you following the will of God? _Can_ you, without having knowledge of Jesus? Sure I can. What I would miss are the things Jesus left for me to help me along my way: the Church and the sacraments. Without those aids, I believe Iā€™d find it much tougher to be a person that was good and pleasing to Godā€¦ but by no means impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/157 "2007-10-14T01:53:33Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker] Not at all. Jesus Himself said the Greatest Commandment was to love God with your whole heart and to love your neighbor as yourself ā€“ a sentiment that has popped up in basic form in other religions. Itā€™s perfectly possible to follow the will of God, and to lead a life that an objective observer would characterize as good, without any knowledge of Jesus at all. [/quote] Itā€™s not the treating others as you would have them treat you part that iā€™m finding odd; itā€™s the parts that involve God. Certainly you would be correct to say that loving deity-in-question pops up in pretty much all religions with a deity, but I canā€™t love God if I donā€™t know of him. I canā€™t worship him if I donā€™t know of him. If loving God is part of the Greatest Commandment, I for example am alright with one half (well, reasonably. Ish. Not as much as I should.) and pretty much out with the second, and iā€™ve _heard_ of God. You canā€™t love someone you donā€™t know about (you donā€™t actually get a choice in that even when you do, but thatā€™s another matter). > [@](#): > > Sure I can. What I would miss are the things Jesus left for me to help me along my way: the Church and the sacraments. Without those aids, I believe Iā€™d find it much tougher to be a person that was good and pleasing to Godā€¦ but by no means impossible. But thatā€™s still only half of it. That you need to be a good person seems ok (though as you say, those aids would help). You could even stumble upon a helpful aid without even hearing about Christianity at all. But you couldnā€™t pray. You couldnā€™t love, or worship, or confess your sins to God, because you donā€™t know him. If your belief requires only earthly goodness, fair enough. But it seemed to me (and still seems to me) that your views require interaction of some kind of with God, and you canā€™t interact with someone you donā€™t know about. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/158 "2007-10-14T01:59:24Z")
Interesting how this thread about Coulter disrespecting Jews has turned into a debate on the finer points of Christianity. Yes, itā€™s becoming clear to me nowā€¦ Jews should convert to Christianity because, er, then we can ALL focus on Jesus the true god. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/159 "2007-10-14T02:11:44Z")
I am assured that those of the Hebraic faith are amply supplied with theological fine points to bicker over. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375/160 "2007-10-14T04:15:17Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] I am assured that those of the Hebraic faith are amply supplied with theological fine points to bicker over. [/QUOTE] Or **Bricker** over? As to the discussion about knowledge/love of Deity being a prerequisite for salvation (whatever that is), I donā€™t pretend to be able to contribute anything truly substantive; but I will throw this into the mix: [Matthew 25:37-40](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=25&version=9) > [@](#): > > Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? > > And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfected-jew/422375.md?page=9)