# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2165 "2021-07-20T08:33:45Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Trump says that it would have been difficult for [Washington with Lincoln as his running mate](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-george-washington-election-2021-7) to beat him in an election. So Trump could have beaten a Washington/Lincoln ticket, but Biden beat _him_. By the transitive property, Biden’s looking pretty awesome right now. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2166 "2021-07-20T09:01:42Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Trump says that it would have been difficult for [Washington with Lincoln as his running mate](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-george-washington-election-2021-7) to beat him in an election. So Trump says that he would be better than Washington/Lincoln in an election? Gee, Pierce, Buchanon, and Andrew Johnson might have something to say about that. Especially given that Trump ranks right down there with those losing guys. I cannot speak for Mr. Washington, but Mr. Lincoln studied law, and the Constitution. Mr. Trump doesn’t even know what the Constitution is. Mr. Lincoln was a lawyer; Mr. Trump is not, and has proven himself to not understand the law. Mr. Lincoln delivered speeches that have resonated to this day (e.g. the Gettysburg Address); Mr. Trump just blathers at his rallies. Fake news, election fraud; yeah, yeah, yeah, we’ve heard it all before. Mr. Lincoln never said any such thing; and moreover, did not need any rallies to bolster his ego. Mr. Lincoln was presidential. Mr. Trump was not. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2167 "2021-07-20T11:13:10Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Biden beat _him_ . No, he didn’t. At least that’s what CFSG believes, and that’s all that matters. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2168 "2021-07-20T13:37:33Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > > They don’t have any landscaping outlets in California? > > They had one set up, then they noticed that the manure drop had been prepared. Makes sense. They wouldn’t have wanted anyone to get confused. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2169 "2021-07-20T14:15:29Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Mr. Lincoln was presidential. Mr. Trump was not. You sure about that? "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that “all men are created equal” vs “This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.” ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2170 "2021-07-20T15:23:11Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Makes sense. They wouldn’t have wanted anyone to get confused. Good one! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2171 "2021-07-20T18:45:22Z")
Oh, dear. Trouble ahead. > **[Tom Barrack charged with illegally lobbying then-President Trump on behalf of...](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/20/thomas-barrack-chairman-of-trump-2017-inaugural-fund-arrested-on-federal-charge.html)** > > Thomas Barrack, who served as chairman of the 2017 inaugural fund for then-President Donald Trump, has been arrested and detained on federal charges. Apparently the indictment hasn’t yet been unsealed, so more to come on this story shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2172 "2021-07-20T18:54:01Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Apparently the indictment hasn’t yet been unsealed, so more to come on this story shortly. Just a bunch of criminals. The lot of them. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2173 "2021-07-20T18:57:17Z")
It’s about time they arrested Thomas Barrack Hussein Obama! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2174 "2021-07-20T18:57:21Z")
That they are, which is blindingly obvious to those of us (including yourself) who have been paying attention. More information on Barrack’s arrest: He is charged with acting as an undisclosed foreign agent on behalf of the UAE, also lying to the FBI during an interview with agents 2 years ago. (I’m typing this as the news is reporting it, so hopefully I’ve got the details right.) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2175 "2021-07-20T18:59:03Z")
I guess that explains his resignations a few months ago; his company knew the writing was on the wall, and asked him to go spend more time with his family (before the indictment dropped) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2176 "2021-07-20T19:02:37Z")
California is a free money source for Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2177 "2021-07-20T19:15:32Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Oh, dear. Trouble ahead. Oh, that’s good news! ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2178 "2021-07-20T19:43:13Z")
At last the distractions are gone and I can have some more of that sweet, sweet schadenfreude. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2179 "2021-07-20T20:17:00Z")
Seems like the Feds hit a gold mine when they raided Rudy’s office last month: > **[FBI Hit The Evidence Goldmine When They Raided Giuliani’s Office: Report](https://new.deepleftfield.info/fbi-hit-the-evidence-goldmine-when-they-raided-giulianis-office-report/?fbclid=IwAR0s5_BP-6PV-MxqzFNt0cUd9pXe0JDYyHcP6_tqhdfX_JZWFrhRFWWt1wg)** > > When the FBI served search warrants on the office and home of former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani in April, reports suggested that federal agents had seized “electronic devices” th… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2180 "2021-07-20T20:23:26Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Oh, dear. Trouble ahead. > > [https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/20/thomas-barrack-chairman-of-trump-2017-inaugural-fund-arrested-on-federal-charge.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/20/thomas-barrack-chairman-of-trump-2017-inaugural-fund-arrested-on-federal-charge.html) > > Apparently the indictment hasn’t yet been unsealed, so more to come on this story shortly. [The AP story](https://apnews.com/article/barrack-trump-inaugural-uae-030e53361c4e6355baa7c463198a5b0b) says: > [@](#): > > Barrack was charged with conspiracy, obstruction of justice and making multiple false statements during a June 2019 interview with federal law enforcement agents. Also charged in a seven-count indictment in Brooklyn federal court were Matthew Grimes, 27, of Aspen, Colorado and Rashid Sultan Rashid Al Malik Alshahhi, 43, of the United Arab Emirates. > [@](#): > > Prosecutors said Barrack not only agreed to promote UAE foreign policy interests through his unique access and influence, but also provided UAE government officials with sensitive information about developments within the Trump administration — including how senior U.S. officials felt about the Qatari blockade conducted by the UAE and other Middle Eastern countries. > > “Worse, in his communications with Al Malik, the defendant framed his efforts to obtain an official position within the Administration as one that would enable him to further advance the interests of the UAE, rather than the interests of the United States,” prosecutors wrote. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2181 "2021-07-20T20:23:54Z")
Looks like the evidence is hidden in a bunch of tweets that I’m not qualified to read. Can anyone summarize the evidence? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2182 "2021-07-20T20:27:14Z")
Sleep tight, Donnie! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2183 "2021-07-21T00:23:21Z")
Assuming that Trump does decide to run for 2024, who in God’s name is going to agree to be his campaign manager or work for him in any capacity whatsoever? It’s clear that everything Trump touches turns to shit. Even if his campaign people don’t get indicted for major crimes, they are unlikely to be paid. Or will they get enough from grifting the rubes to make it worthwhile? Even if they do get money, it’s pretty clear that eventually they are going under the bus. At some point, pretty much everyone who is not related to Trump goes under the bus. I think that Trump is really going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel before he’ll find anyone who will work for him on campaign 2024. Is there anyone even nuttier than Giuliani, or more corrupt than Thomas Barrack? Trump will have to look _under_ the barrel for candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2184 "2021-07-21T00:28:34Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Trump will have to look _under_ the barrel for candidates. And he’ll find plenty. Does anyone believe, for example, that either Matt Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Greene would turn down the job? Trump would find hundreds of applicants. Would any of them have any expertise, smarts, or record of accomplishment suitable to the job? No, of course not. But that won’t stop Trump’s people (and the RNC, too!) from putting out press releases declaring the hire to be Wonderful and Important. (And I think you did answer your own question in your post—those who realize Trump won’t pay them still expect to profit via other means: their own grifts, later book sales and speaking tours, etc.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=108) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=110)