# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2225 "2021-07-23T21:26:43Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I hope this guy pulls through. But…ya know…fuck him. Let me say that I certainly hope he doesn’t die. I hope he doesn’t even suffer that badly. I hope that he wises up and turns his experience into something positive. Maybe he can recover and go on the air, tell people he was wrong, and encourage his listeners to get the vaccine. He might be able to do some good. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2226 "2021-07-24T05:05:45Z")
I certainly hope it’s more of a transformative experience for him than it so obviously was for Twitler. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2227 "2021-07-24T05:20:24Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > . . . I hope that he wises up and turns his experience into something positive. . . . Yeah, a lot of us hoped Trump would do that. > [@Atamasama](#): > > . . . Maybe he can recover and go on the air, tell people he was wrong, and encourage his listeners to get the vaccine. Don’t know that anyone even imagined _that_ would happen, though. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2228 "2021-07-27T14:57:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > No, what you _want_ is for Russia to stop fermenting chaos in the United States and elsewhere. The way to do that is to create enough chaos in Russia to scare them into backing down. No, right now the only way to do that is to give Putin the ol’ Nine-Millimeter Retirement Package. But, some people on that side of the pond might just take it the wrong way. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2229 "2021-07-27T19:40:30Z")
Not knowing where else to put this, but Hobby Lobby just took a _bizarre_ hit: > [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51340089214_7473323e15_b.jpg "20210727\_144045") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51340089214/) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2230 "2021-07-27T19:43:46Z")
This also happened in the past hour: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51340363020_06f2fa562a_b.jpg "20210727\_144232") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51340363020/) Wu-Tang is for the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2231 "2021-07-27T19:45:03Z")
Didn’t they get taken in by fake Dead Sea Scroll fragments or something a while back? What is it with Hobby Lobby and ancient artifacts? “It belongs in a museum!” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2232 "2021-07-27T19:48:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Not knowing where else to put this, but Hobby Lobby just took a _bizarre_ hit: Maybe Iraq wants it back. Their Prime Minister was just here. > **[Biden says US combat mission in Iraq to conclude by year end](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-government-and-politics-middle-east-iraq-islamic-state-group-9397d9996703d7416f857165072a0a05)** > > President Joe Biden says the U.S. military’s combat mission in Iraq will conclude by the end of the year. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2233 "2021-07-27T20:00:48Z")
Unless I’m reading that wrong, it says it was seized in Sept. 2019. I wonder why it’s just making the news now? Doesn’t really matter tho… fuck Hobby Lobby. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2234 "2021-07-27T20:02:40Z")
Today they sold it and realized the (undisclosed) gain. The $ gained, along with other forfeited assets, was enough to satisfy the $7.4 million owed and _that_ is a new development in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2235 "2021-07-27T20:04:41Z")
How can they sell it if it’s been forfeited? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2236 "2021-07-27T20:06:14Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Didn’t they get taken in by fake Dead Sea Scroll fragments or something a while back? What is it with Hobby Lobby and ancient artifacts? AFAICT it’s another chapter in the saga of HL’s evangelical Christian owners [wanting to accumulate inventory for their projected “Bible Museum”](https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/7/7/15930200/hobby-lobby-smuggling-iraqi-antiquities-bible-museum). > [@](#): > > It sounds like the misbegotten plot of an Indiana Jones movie: a fiercely evangelical Christian corporation comes under fire for smuggling priceless — but illegally obtained — artifacts into the United States in order to build a Bible museum, and potentially funding Islamic terrorism in the process. > > But that’s more or less what happened Wednesday night [in July 2017], when the Department of Justice announced that the United States was [formally filing](https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/united-states-files-civil-action-forfeit-thousands-ancient-iraqi-artifacts-imported) a civil action to force Christian craft store chain Hobby Lobby to forfeit thousands of Iraqi artifacts it had obtained without the necessary clearance. As a result of the suit, Hobby Lobby agreed to forfeit all of the artifacts in question — obtained in 2010 and 2011 — and pay a $3 million fine. […] > > As early as 2011, investigators have been seizing shipments of “sample tiles” — Iraqi artifacts — to various Hobby Lobby offices or affiliates. These “samples” turned out to be priceless cuneiform tablets. In late 2015, [the Daily Beast](http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-feds-investigate-hobby-lobby-boss-for-illicit-artifacts) [reported](http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-feds-investigate-hobby-lobby-boss-for-illicit-artifacts) that there was an ongoing federal investigation into Hobby Lobby’s antiquities imports dating back at least to 2010. > > The antiquities in question were likely intended for the Museum of the Bible: a multi-million-dollar, 430,000-square-foot behemoth set to open in November in Washington, DC, just off the National Mall. Funded by the Green family, Hobby Lobby’s owners, the museum is the most public example of what the Greens have repeatedly characterized in the press as Hobby Lobby’s “ministry”: using the profits gleaned from the business to share Christian ideals with the world. […] > > Flush with Hobby Lobby cash, Steve Green quickly amassed one of the world’s most extraordinary collection of Bible-related artifacts starting in 2009, a year before setting up the museum as a nonprofit. The collection of an estimated 40,000 items includes early translations of the Bible into English, pieces of the Dead Sea Scroll, and Torahs salvaged from Nazi destruction. > > But museum scholars and archeologists have questioned the handling of some of these items, particularly antiquities from the Middle East. Legally and ethically, would-be buyers of antiquities are required to do due diligence when it comes to the items’ origins: essentially, ensuring that they are not buying stolen or unethically acquired goods. This is, in part, based on the idea that paying for the acquisition of stolen goods drives up looting and theft. In areas like Iraq, conflict has already made archaeological sites vulnerable. For example, ISIS and other militant organizations have reportedly developed looted antiquities as an income stream of up to [$200 million a year](http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-islamic-state-nets-up-to-200-million-a-year-from-antiquities-russia-2016-4?r=US&IR=T). > > The Greens, by all reports, seem to have done the barest minimum of due diligence. Rich western evangelicals are some of the worst when it comes to irresponsibly encouraging traffic in historical artifacts that can be in any way characterized as “biblical”. I wouldn’t mind so much if their greed and carelessness about provenance were just resulting in their ignorantly getting conned into buying forgeries, but a lot of this stuff is genuine antiquities whose historical and scholarly import is being significantly degraded by illegal looting and trafficking. The original thieves and looters shouldn’t be let off the hook for enabling them, but rich buyers don’t even have the excuse of financial desperation and struggle for survival that a lot of site looters in war-torn areas have. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2237 "2021-07-27T20:06:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Hobby Lobby just took a _bizarre_ hit: I just love that the US has a Polite Assistant Attorney General. So much better than those rude Attorneys General that other countries have. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2238 "2021-07-27T20:06:48Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > How can they sell it if it’s been forfeited? He forfeited it to the government to satisfy the demands of the criminal settlement. The government, now in possession, sold it and applied the proceeds to his settlement. The government wants cash, they don’t want stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2239 "2021-07-27T20:09:17Z")
Sorry, got confused. Thought you were talking about the Gilagamesh one. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2240 "2021-07-27T20:16:56Z")
Ahhh. Yes, cross communications. I think that, by the traditions of this Board, we are supposed to start yelling at each other or something. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2241 "2021-07-27T20:17:56Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Gilagamesh Isn’t Gilagamesh the one that will start a new age of darkness out of Charlie Harper’s loins? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2242 "2021-07-27T20:18:33Z")
The “G is for Goober” crew didn’t do very well with their attempt at counter-programming: [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565069-protesters-shut-down-greene-gaetz-event](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565069-protesters-shut-down-greene-gaetz-event) > [The group] led by Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Texas) and Paul Gosar (Ariz.), were holding a news conference outside the DOJ to protest the treatment of individuals arrested in connection to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, when counterprotesters arrived on the scene. > > One protester repeatedly blew a whistle during the event, and other demonstrators were holding signs that read “Jan 6th was an inside job, vets for democrats” and “Traitors + Rapists: Sit Down,” the latter likely referring to Gaetz, who is [under investigation](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/545648-matt-gaetz-under-investigation-for-alleged-sexual-relations-with-17-year-old) for an alleged sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl… ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2243 "2021-07-27T20:24:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > think that, by the traditions of this Board, we are supposed to start yelling at each other or something. _that_ I would pay to watch. I would just sit back and enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2244 "2021-07-27T20:25:52Z")
After repeatedly sucking up to Trump, George P. Bush didn’t get Trump’s endorsement > **[George P. Bush just learned a very important lesson about Donald Trump | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/27/politics/george-p-bush-donald-trump-ken-paxton/index.html)** > > George P. Bush wanted Donald Trump's endorsement badly. Or, at a minimum, he wanted the former president to stay out of his primary challenge to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=111) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=113)