# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2325 "2021-08-03T00:12:37Z")
To be clear, George Soros and Bill Gates secretly own the patents and manufacturing for Ivermectin. I read that somewhere, perhaps posted here on the SDMB. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2326 "2021-08-03T00:24:19Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > … which will be Biden’s fault. > > Or Obama’s. Or Hillary’s. Or all of the above. With Jimmy Carter thrown in for good measure. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2327 "2021-08-03T01:50:12Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Or Obama’s. Or Hillary’s. Nonono, its all the fault of that uppity black woman…what’s her name? Harris or something? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2328 "2021-08-03T04:35:34Z")
History’s greatest monster ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2329 "2021-08-03T06:44:07Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Then they’ll head down to the farm supply store and stock up on horse-grade Ivermectin (none of that namby-pamby human dosage). And maybe take some right off the bat, “just to be on the safe side.” Something like this really happened, remember. Almost immediately after Trump announced the chloroquine / hydroxychloroquine cure, an Arizona couple dosed themselves up with aquarium-grade chloroquine phospate, with sub-optimal results (for certain values of “sub-optimal”). The wife got very sick, and the husband got very dead. > **[Arizona man dead, wife in hospital after ingesting chloroquine over...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/arizona-chloroquine-death-1.5507775)** > > A Phoenix-area man has died and his wife was in critical condition after the couple ingested an aquarium cleaning product containing chloroquine phosphate, a chemical with a name similar to one found in the anti-malaria medication touted by U.S.... ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2330 "2021-08-03T14:07:18Z")
Darwin is a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2331 "2021-08-04T15:49:12Z")
The lying con man is fighting the tax return release. “The Trump legal team’s court filing Wednesday asked a federal judge not only to block Treasury from handing over the tax returns, but also to order the Ways and Means Committee “to end all ongoing examinations” of Trump and his companies.” > **[Trump seeks to block Treasury Department from handing over his tax returns to...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1275907)** > > Lawyers for Trump said the stated reason for seeing the returns, to examine how the IRS audits presidents, is simply a pretext for wanting to look for something embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2332 "2021-08-04T16:18:31Z")
Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Aye; that’ll work! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2333 "2021-08-04T16:19:15Z")
> The committee chairman’s request for Trump’s tax returns "bore little resemblance to an effort to investigate how the IRS audits presidents. It asked for the information of only one president, asked for open files for which audits have not been completed, and never asked the IRS for the most relevant information — namely, how it audits presidents,” they said. (Underlining mine) I wonder why that could be? Could it possibly be related to the fact that every other president had already made them publicly available? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2334 "2021-08-04T16:26:14Z")
Are they actually obliged to give a reason for asking for the returns? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2335 "2021-08-04T16:32:32Z")
I’m no lawyer, but it was my understanding that they did not. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2336 "2021-08-04T16:33:39Z")
Smackdown! [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lawyers-sanctioned-over-fantastical-suit-alleging-2020-us-election-was-stolen/ar-AAMWeKK?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lawyers-sanctioned-over-fantastical-suit-alleging-2020-us-election-was-stolen/ar-AAMWeKK?li=BBnb7Kz) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2337 "2021-08-04T16:35:57Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Smackdown! “Albeit disorganized and fantastical, the Complaint’s allegations are extraordinarily serious and, if accepted as true by large numbers of people, are the stuff of which violent insurrections are made,” the judge said. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2338 "2021-08-04T17:18:15Z")
> Neureiter ordered the two lawyers, Gary D. Fielder and Ernest John Walker, to pay the legal fees incurred by people and entities they sued, including Facebook Inc and voting machine company Dominion Voting Systems Inc. > > The amount of money the two will need to pay has not yet been determined by Neureiter, who has asked Dominion and Facebook to provide documentation about how much they spent. There needs to be more of this. Much more. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2339 "2021-08-04T17:32:17Z")
The judge also needs to put a time frame on payment. Make the suckers cough up the cash within 90 days or go to jail for contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2340 "2021-08-04T20:08:11Z")
Mike Dunford on Twitter did a brief review of this, and my favorite sentence so far is, > Because the amended “class action” complaint here is clearly the product of force-feeding massive numbers of bats. He also seems to have a real animus to ducks. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2341 "2021-08-04T21:50:10Z")
This may be a little beyond mere _schadenfreude_, even verging on callous and insenstitive, but I’ve been wondering about this, and here’s (presumably) reliable data to support the suspicion I imagine many of us have had: > **[America’s Republicans Are Killing Their Voters | by Jeffrey Frankel - Project...](https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/vaccination-reduced-mortality-evidence-republicans-by-jeffrey-frankel-2021-07?barrier=accesspaylog)** > > Jeffrey Frankel uses voting patterns to show that the link between vaccination and reduced mortality is more than a correlation. > The “partisan gap” – which [continues to widen](https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-rates-is-growing/) – holds even after accounting for income, race, and age, as well as population density and the local infection and death rates. According to [my calculations](https://scholar.harvard.edu/frankel/publications/virus-vaccination-and-voting-econometric-analysis), when controlling for the poverty rate and other relevant variables (particularly age and temperature), a one percentage-point increase in the share of a county’s residents over age 12 who were fully vaccinated as of June 9 is associated with a death rate that was 0.05 lower per 100,000 inhabitants during the subsequent 30 days. > To ensure that the results are not distorted by reverse causality, I also performed another calculation, based on the same data. **Accounting for variation in the vaccination decision attributable solely to partisan political affinity – and controlling for variables like poverty – I [found](https://scholar.harvard.edu/frankel/publications/virus-vaccination-and-voting-econometric-analysis) the difference in the COVID-19 death rate to be 0.04 per 100,000 inhabitants.** > I used voting patterns not to target any particular group, but rather to provide a better estimate of vaccine effectiveness on anyone. But I hope that at least some skeptics notice that members of their political “in-group” are dying at a higher rate, and decide to give vaccination a chance. As Rochelle Walensky, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, recently [observed](https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/16/nation/covid-19-cases-rise-this-is-becoming-pandemic-unvaccinated-cdc-director-says/), “This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” _emphasis mine_ ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2342 "2021-08-04T21:55:21Z")
Count me among the callous and insensitive. While I can muster some sympathy for those who love and care about people who refuse vaccination for non-health reasons, stupidity is — and always has been —in the long run a capital offense. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2343 "2021-08-04T22:09:33Z")
Filed under “Face eating leopards-party I voted for ate my face” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2344 "2021-08-04T22:52:31Z")
In this case, they actually cut off their own faces to feed the leopard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=118)