# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 129
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2565 "2021-08-18T14:34:56Z")
Oh _now_ you did it! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2566 "2021-08-18T19:25:46Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Iss “glazgee”, yeh feckin bawbag. And you’ve got to swallow the last vowel sound, like the o in _Scuh’-làn’ …_ (Ochhh, dinnae ken _hoo_ ta lairn ya dobbahs…) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2567 "2021-08-19T01:10:00Z")
Sean Hannity worked some My Pillow product placement into a radio bit about the Kabul evacuation _How would you like to be in Kabul today, as an American, and you can’t get to the airport? Where are you thinking your life is heading? If you’re one of those family members, I bet you’re not sleeping. I don’t even think MyPillow can do it. MyPillow. com. That’s where I go. I fall asleep faster, I stay asleep longer. These are going to be a lot of sleepless nights for so many Americans. We’ve got to get them home._ > **[Sean Hannity plugs My Pillow to Americans with family stuck in Kabul](https://www.mediamatters.org/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-plugs-my-pillow-americans-family-stuck-kabul)** What the ever-loving fuck? Lindell hasn’t been too keen on Hannity as of late, what with his refusal to make Dominion’s massive election fraud the focus of his Fox show. Is this some sort of effort to appease Mike Lindell - or does Hannity just need the money? Anyway, it’s a great reminder that it’s all about the grift. Always. ETA: I just threw an extra space into MyPillow. com just to break the link, cause I didn’t want anyone to accidentally click it and poison their brain. It’s a safety issue. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2568 "2021-08-19T04:49:40Z")
He did that with [cell phones,](https://www.thedailybeast.com/hannity-uses-afghan-crisis-as-pitch-line-to-sell-pillows-and-cell-phones) too. Here’s a quote: “There is a stampede, not only out of Afghanistan, but a stampede away from high prices, overpriced service from the big carriers like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile. The average family making the switch to PureTalk,” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2569 "2021-08-19T05:10:23Z")
It’s grift all the way down now. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2570 "2021-08-19T07:39:19Z")
Some of these people will die not knowing that they’re pieces of shit. Some of them know, and are happy with it. I would love to see where on the spectrum people here would rate these clowns in seeing if they’re grifting or bein sincere. Hannity is a grifter for sure. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2571 "2021-08-19T14:42:22Z")
Another(?) Trump pardonee returns to court. Let’s hope that keeps happening! [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who-is-ken-kurson-trump-pardoned-pal-of-jared-kushner-charged-with-cyberstalking/ar-AANuFb9](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who-is-ken-kurson-trump-pardoned-pal-of-jared-kushner-charged-with-cyberstalking/ar-AANuFb9) ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2572 "2021-08-19T14:57:24Z")
Rachel Maddow stated that Federal pardons can’t stop the State from pursuing felony charges. They’re looking at Bannon, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2573 "2021-08-19T15:00:05Z")
Doesn’t Roger Stone also have a few things that could still be brought against him? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2574 "2021-08-19T16:22:41Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > Rachel Maddow stated that **Federal pardons can’t stop the State from pursuing felony charges**. They’re looking at Bannon, too.   That may be true or maybe not. It depends on a lot of circumstances and it’s convoluted. Here’s a summary, as best I think I understand it: - The Supreme Court ruled that the Federal government and the various states are separate sovereigns, so that a presidential pardon for a federal crime does not preclude states from prosecuting at the state level for the same crime. (Which otherwise was argued to be a violation of the Double Jeopardy clause of the Fifth Amendment.) - Some states (including New York) thought that was baloney, so they passed their own state laws saying that a presidential pardon DOES protect against state-level prosecution for the same crime. (This might have been very conditional, applying only to certain specified classes of crimes?) - Then, when Trump went on his pardon sprees, some of those states decided they really DID want to be able to prosecute Trump and his cronies, so they passed more laws saying that a presidential pardon does NOT protect against state-level prosecution in certain cases (typically where the President himself or his cronies are involved, or something like that). We had a discussion of all this on this board a few years ago. So I think it’s murky as to what crimes can be charged in what states against who, in situations like that. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2575 "2021-08-19T16:33:26Z")
With these guys, I betcha there’s more than one crime they can find to prosecute them on! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2576 "2021-08-19T17:08:51Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > With these guys, I betcha there’s more than one crime they can find to prosecute them on!   No doubt, if the prosecutors really want to get serious about this. These crooks are full-time professionals at what they do. Here’s a post I wrote last May discussing the double-jeopardy rules in a little more detail (as best I thought I understood it), back when it was a little fresher in my mind: > [@Minnesota trial of Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) reactions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/860): > > I think we’ve discussed, and settled, questions about double jeopardy like this in other threads already – in particular, questions about whether someone pardoned by the president can then be prosecuted for the same crime at the state level. Here is a summary as I understood it all, some points of which are relevant here: Some conclusions were: Double jeopardy only applies if, in the first place, you are tried for a crime and acquitted. If you are tried and convicted in one jurisdiction, y… ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2577 "2021-08-19T17:53:09Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > The thing that surprised me about this, was how long Rudy actually spent on the message. Bit late to the party, but I couldn’t help myself [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cntvEDbagAw/maxresdefault.jpg "The Specials - A Message To You Rudy (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cntvEDbagAw) Enjoy ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2578 "2021-08-19T18:06:19Z")
This just in: Donald J. Trump has been appointed to hold office for life. That office is Presidunce. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2579 "2021-08-19T18:07:47Z")
Has W agreed to step down? I mean, DJT is probably better qualified, but we need to follow the rules here. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2580 "2021-08-19T18:10:53Z")
Pretty sure Duhbya is on record as saying, “Finally! Someone did a worse job than me!” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2581 "2021-08-19T18:15:10Z")
A Message To You, Rudy was playing at Trader Joe’s when I went to get lunch Tuesday. It had played on my iPod earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2582 "2021-08-19T18:20:22Z")
Good to know it’s still being played. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2583 "2021-08-19T18:33:06Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Pretty sure Duhbya is on record as saying, “Finally! Someone did a worse job than me!” I actually think Trump’s turn actually elevated W’s term from one of the worst to slightly below average. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2584 "2021-08-19T18:37:19Z")
I think this is relevant: > **['Miss Me Yet?' Billboard With Photo Of Bush Is Real; Not An Internet Trick](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/02/bush_miss_me_yet_billboard_is.html)** > > A billboard featuring a photo of George W. Bush and the message "miss me yet?" stands tall out side Wyoming, Minn. [![](https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/abc_atm_bush_billboard_100209_wg.jpg) ](https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/abc_atm_bush_billboard_100209_wg.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=128) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=130)