# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 140
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2785 "2021-09-05T09:48:33Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Two w… > Oh, the hell with it. You beat me to it. But very nicely said. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2786 "2021-09-05T13:21:42Z")
I must quote a reader comment from the [NYT](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/03/us/politics/qanon-shaman-capitol-guilty.html#commentsContainer) on the article about this subject: > I wonder if an aggressive shaman is an antithesis of shamanism. And this shaman does not seem to have the spiritual depth and moral compass to recognize the crooked ways of Donald Trump. > > I propose to demote him to “sham”. Oh had it only been me who came up with that first! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2787 "2021-09-05T18:24:33Z")
Individual 1 just made these comments on Afghanistan: “… ALL EQUIPMENT should be demanded to be immediately returned to the United States, and that includes every penny of the $85 billion dollars in cost. If it is not handed back, we should either go in with unequivocal Military force and get it, or at least bomb the hell out of it.” I doubt he wrote it himself, he has no idea what unequivocal means. [https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1278146](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1278146) ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2788 "2021-09-05T18:32:30Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I doubt he wrote it himself, he has no idea what unequivocal means. Well, it’s an odd usage of unequivocal so maybe. He might have thought it meant ‘unequal’ or something. Even a small group could be unequivocally military just because they are in uniforms and whatnot… ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2789 "2021-09-05T19:10:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 just made these comments on Afghanistan: > “… ALL EQUIPMENT should be demanded to be immediately returned to the United States, and that includes every penny of the $85 billion dollars in cost. If it is not handed back, we should either go in with unequivocal Military force and get it, or at least bomb the hell out of it.” If he wanted that to be a condition of our withdrawal from Afghanistan, shouldn’t he have made it so when he was President? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2790 "2021-09-05T23:33:45Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > If he wanted that to be a condition of our withdrawal from Afghanistan, shouldn’t he have made it so when he was President? And of course that’s a major part of why Donald was so dismayed when he actually won in 2016. For all those years he’d been making similarly-irresponsible pronouncements about what the USA “should” do, and having a fine old time doing it. Now, all of a sudden, some might expect him to be _accountable_ for his irresponsible pronouncements! Some might expect him to follow through on whatever he said!!! Fortunately for Donald, the number who fell into the category of ‘expecting him to follow through on what he said’ turned out to be vanishingly small. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2791 "2021-09-06T01:15:27Z")
re: MSNBC article: So this’ll become the next big alt-reich talking point? That Biden was too cowardly to get back all those forlorn, deserted WMDs? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2792 "2021-09-07T13:04:37Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > So this’ll become the next big alt-reich talking point? That Biden was too cowardly to get back all those forlorn, deserted WMDs? No, that’s been a talking point since the withdrawal. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2793 "2021-09-08T21:30:30Z")
The lawyer representing 17 (or is it 18?) Jan. 6 defentdants – more than any other lawyer – has a few problems. > In late August, Pierce failed to show up to court for one of those clients, and prosecutors said they had lost contact with him. The reasons for Pierce’s absence were initially tough to pin down. > > Pierce’s associates said at different points that he was hospitalized with COVID-19 and on a ventilator, that he was in an “accident,” and that he had “dehydration and exhaustion.” The phone at his legal office appeared to be disconnected, and calls to his cellphone went straight to voicemail. The Justice Department said that the confusion had effectively brought all of his cases to a halt. > > Then, on Sept. 7, Pierce reappeared. He said he had been released from a hospital in the Los Angeles area after a 12-day stay but declined to discuss exactly what led to his hospitalization. > > “I will not be elaborating further on my personal medical issues,” he told NPR in an email. ( He did say in his statement, “I have not taken any vaccination for COVID-19, nor do I plan to do so.”) And there’s more: > Court records from his divorce show that he has dealt with substance abuse and mental health problems for several years. His ex-wife has previously obtained two domestic violence restraining orders against him. Pierce [disclosed in court](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21050699-transcript-missouri-primate-foundation-et-al-v-people-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-inc-et-al-4_16-cv-02163-wdmo#document/p9/a2052589) this summer that he received a “letter of inquiry” from the California State Bar, a step the State Bar takes if it is considering disciplinary charges against an attorney. (Pierce declined to comment on that letter.) Oh, and he’s “a civil litigator who has never tried a criminal case before.” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2794 "2021-09-08T22:18:49Z")
Waitaminute! Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer still work for the US Govt.??? > **[Biden forces out former Trump officials from military academy advisory boards](https://www.axios.com/2021/09/08/biden-trump-military-advisory-boards)** > > The members include former senior counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway and former press secretary Sean Spicer. “The officials include prominent former Trump advisors — like former counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway and former press secretary Sean Spicer who were appointed to Air Force Academy and Naval Academy boards respectively — just before the former president left office.” Not for much longer, it looks like, but JAYSUS! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2795 "2021-09-08T22:22:11Z")
Trump: “Fill the Swamp!” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2796 "2021-09-08T23:54:14Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Waitaminute! > Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer still work for the US Govt.??? No doubt Biden was at pains to distinguish himself from Trump (who fired all Obama holdovers with vindictive glee). So Kellyanne and Sean got to draw a few more month’s paychecks from their no-show jobs. Kellyanne, hilariously, sent Biden a defiant letter of non-resignation, in which she waxed self-righteous about Biden’s supposed violation of “presidential norms”—though it’s surprising she was able to type that without her device exploding from the irony. (The letter can be read here without going to Kellyanne’s own account, for those who’d like to avoid that.) [https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1435721107361996803\*\*strong](https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1435721107361996803**strong) text\*\* ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2797 "2021-09-09T01:33:21Z")
Are those really paid positions? They sound like they aren’t. Just advisory positions without any real power, so they may be “volunteer” slots. Anybody have direct knowledge? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2798 "2021-09-09T01:42:53Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Anybody have direct knowledge? According to the [charter](https://www.usafa.edu/app/uploads/USAFA-BoV_Charter-2020-2022_20201113.pdf) of the board > Except for reimbursement of official Board-related travel and per diem, Board members serve > without compensation. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2799 "2021-09-09T01:55:04Z")
“Board related travel and per-diem”. That’s enough to say that those fuckers should have it taken from them. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2800 "2021-09-09T01:58:52Z")
If they are going to bitch and fight over getting the boot, they ought to schedule meetings in Greenland and refuse to pay for anything other than coach class on Ryan-Air. Then can their asses when they don’t show up. ---
**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2801 "2021-09-09T12:33:11Z")
That’s why the USA should have bought Greenland. Then it would be the 51st state and they could just drive there 🤡 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2802 "2021-09-09T14:22:35Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > If they are going to bitch and fight over getting the boot, they ought to schedule meetings in Greenland and refuse to pay for anything other than coach class on Ryan-Air. Then can their asses when they don’t show up. > [@tricoteuse](#): > > That’s why the USA should have bought Greenland. Then it would be the 51st state and they could just drive there 🤡 So, do you want Biden to send them back to where they were? _Unemployed_ ? In _Greenland_ ? 🙂 On an interesting note, unemployment in Greenland is going down. > **[Greenland: unemployment rate 2021 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1112689/unemployment-rate-in-greenland/)** > > In 2021, the unemployment rate among among permanent residents in Greenland aged 18 to 65 years was 3.7 percent, the lowest under the period under consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2803 "2021-09-09T14:41:34Z")
We already have a bridge to nowhere, in Alaska, we don’t need another one. (My apologies to the fine people of Greenland.) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2804 "2021-09-09T14:54:45Z")
In total amounts, probably Giuliani and Lyndell. As a fraction of their disposable income, probably a whole lot of MAGAs. Not to mention non-financial things that they have lost, like their lives or their freedom from participating in an insurrection. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=139) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=141)