# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 149
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2965 "2021-09-26T15:14:17Z")
I have said it before, and I will say it again: the Internet is the greatest vector of mental disorders ever invented by the hand of man. Even more than cocaine, it’s a hell of a drug. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2966 "2021-09-26T17:57:13Z")
I can’t argue with that. As much as I enjoy “googling” obscure facts at the drop of a hat, I think the internet is destroying humanity. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2967 "2021-09-26T20:19:51Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > This is delicious. > For his part, while Wood concedes he described the lawyers as his “partners,” he says they were never truly partners in his firm. A relief, I’m sure, for the former partners. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2968 "2021-09-26T21:33:24Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Sidney Powell is counter-suing Dominion. Release the kraken, or the flerken, or the chicken, or something… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2969 "2021-09-27T01:42:28Z")
Profiles In Cowardice: [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/574024-cheney-says-a-lot-of-gop-lawmakers-have-privately-encouraged-her-fight-against](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/574024-cheney-says-a-lot-of-gop-lawmakers-have-privately-encouraged-her-fight-against) > …“Have members of Congress, Republicans, come up to you privately and whispered in your ear, ‘Way to go, Liz’ and encouraged you but won’t come forward and say that publicly?” Stahl asked Cheney. > “Yes,” Cheney responded… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2970 "2021-09-27T04:35:55Z")
Political courage, always in short supply, is almost non-existent in the GOP of the Age of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2971 "2021-09-27T06:33:21Z")
Trump is apparently available in liquid form: [![](https://i.imgur.com/TGDfkNE.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/TGDfkNE.jpg) An ad from the 50s, I believe. It’s still sold today in a different form, but at the time it was a commercial dishwasher detergent sold in five-gallon pails that automatically fed industrial washers. It seems a pity to have squandered the name that way. It should have been reserved for something more appropriate, like a corrosive bacteria-laden substance that you flushed into your septic tank once a year to eat up all the shit. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2972 "2021-09-27T14:38:15Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > a corrosive bacteria-laden substance that you flushed into your septic tank once a year to eat up all the shit. They had to recall that Trump product, because as it turns out, it actually created more shit in your septic tank. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2973 "2021-09-27T14:43:59Z")
Kraken released with great fanfare! Thanks Sidney! > **[Spokane Arena fans, staff 'excited' to host NHL expansion Seattle Kraken's...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/26/spokane-arena-fans-staff-excited-to-host-nhl-expan/)** > > The preseason matchup between the Kraken and the Vancouver Canucks was the first NHL game at the Arena since the new barn opened with a preseason game featuring the Canucks and the San Jose Sharks in 1995. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2974 "2021-09-27T15:26:14Z")
Concerning Trump suing his niece, I saw a Michael Cohen interview this weekend and his advice was she shouldn’t fight it going to trial, and the smart thing to do is to let all the discovery and depositions get going full speed. Cohen said of Trump’s attorneys, “They are adamant that they do not want him (Trump) to sit for depositions because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Even if in fact it deals with him, he is absolutely clueless and he lies so much, he doesn’t even remember the lies that he told yesterday,” ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2975 "2021-09-27T16:04:33Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > Cohen said of Trump’s attorneys, “They are adamant that they do not want him (Trump) to sit for depositions because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Even if in fact it deals with him, he is absolutely clueless and he lies so much, he doesn’t even remember the lies that he told yesterday,” Hell, he doesn’t even remember the lies he told a minute or so ago, or at the beginning of the sentence he’s currently mangling. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2976 "2021-09-27T17:01:31Z")
Like the man said, I don’t lie because my memory isn’t good enough. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2977 "2021-09-28T19:43:40Z")
A New York arbitrator has tossed Trump’s non-disclosure agreement with Omarosa, agreeing with her argument that the NDA was not binding under New York contract law. > **['Apprentice' star, former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman beats...](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/28/trump-loses-to-omarosa-manigault-newman-in-arbitration-fight-over-book.html)** > > Donald Trump blasted "Apprentice" contestant Omarosa Manigault Newman after she won an arbitration ruling about a nondisclosure agreement with his campaign. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2978 "2021-09-28T20:31:55Z")
Reading about this decision in the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-omarosa-nondisclosure-agreement-lawsuit/2021/09/28/d9b019f0-2071-11ec-8200-5e3fd4c49f5e_story.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics) (possibly paywalled), I found that Trump’s NDAs require signnatories to keep confidential “all information . . . that Mr. Trump insists remain private.” The arbitrator in this case, and a Federal judge in another, both said this is too broad and vague. > “The Agreement effectively imposes on [her] an obligation to never say anything remotely critical of Mr. Trump, his family or his or his family members’ businesses, for the rest of her life,” Brown [the arbitrator] wrote. “Such a burden is certainly unreasonable.” > > In addition, Brown said, Manigault Newman had not revealed any hard data taken from her time on the campaign, such as polling numbers or donors’ phone numbers. > > Instead, Brown wrote, her statements are “for the most part simply expressions of unflattering opinions, which are deemed ‘confidential information’ based solely upon the designation of Mr. Trump.” Hopefully, this could begin a tide of invalidating Trump NDAs, letting other former employees start speaking out. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2979 "2021-09-28T21:13:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > … that the NDA was not binding under New York contract law. After years of working for an ad agency, our (new) lawyer demanded our boss/owner go around and get everyone to sign an NDA. The boss was embarrassed, and she said “Look, the lawyer needs a phone call from me that everyone has signed this, but even the head of his law firm said these aren’t really enforceable, so can you just go ahead and sign this? I’ll never hold you to it.” (I pointed out that if she sold the agency to a tough guy, he could take us to court to try to enforce the clause that said “I will not work for any competitor in the ad or design field for ten years”… But I went ahead and signed it. With a flourish, starting with a great big _D…_ Followed by a barely legible _… ontthinkill Signthis_ I noticed that she did _not_ look closely at it as she put it with the others in a file folder. Then she deliberately shoved it in the very back of her lowest file cabinet. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2980 "2021-09-28T21:16:28Z")
and with that ruling every ghost writer in the country is finding their phone ringing off the hook. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2981 "2021-09-28T21:34:38Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Reading about this decision in the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-omarosa-nondisclosure-agreement-lawsuit/2021/09/28/d9b019f0-2071-11ec-8200-5e3fd4c49f5e_story.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics) (possibly paywalled), I found that Trump’s NDAs require signnatories to keep confidential “all information . . . that Mr. Trump insists remain private.” The arbitrator in this case, and a Federal judge in another, both said this is too broad and vague. Nice to see that Trump has been screwed by his own comically over-protective narcissism. Meaningful, enforceable NDAs usually cover very specific information (in my experience, mostly advanced product or planning information revealed in a specific meeting or presentation). If, as seems likely, Trump’s other NDAs also contain overly broad language along the same lines as “you can’t say anything about me that I don’t approve, ever” then they’ll get tossed, too. We all know Trump is an ineffable moron but it sometimes surprises me how stupid his lawyers are, too (case in point: R. Giuliani; S. Powell). ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2982 "2021-09-28T21:50:14Z")
> [@digs](#): > > After years of working for an ad agency, our (new) lawyer demanded our boss/owner go around and get everyone to sign an NDA. The boss was embarrassed, and she said “Look, the lawyer needs a phone call from me that everyone has signed this, but even the head of his law firm said these aren’t really enforceable, so can you just go ahead and sign this? I’ll never hold you to it.” That seems par for the course. While an NDA should be narrow in scope outlining what information you’re not supposed to share, a lot of organizations try to use them as a club and include conditions they know aren’t enforceable. They’re just hoping to intimidate people into following the NDA by scaring them with potential lawsuits. “Nobody in her life has done more for Omarosa than a man named Donald Trump. Unfortunately, like certain others, she forgot all about that — which is fine with me!” Trump said. Trump sounds like a petulant child. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2983 "2021-09-28T22:10:13Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Trump sounds like a petulant child. “Sounds like”? 😄 This is the guy now wreaking havoc among Georgia Republicans by tacitly supporting Stacey Abrams for governor, because Brian Kemp was mean to him by refusing to commit election fraud on his behalf. Trump doesn’t give the tiniest shit about anything beyond getting back at anyone who has ever been mean to him, in his esteemed estimation. Unfortunately that is now beginning to include the entire judicial system, as well as all media outside of Fox and OANN, and a majority of Americans outside his circle of insurrectionists. So unfair! Sad! ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/2984 "2021-09-28T22:16:23Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > So unfair! Sad! In his totally deranged mind, he’s the most fouled individual in history. In fact, he’s the individual who most fouled other people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=148) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=150)