# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 163
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3245 "2021-10-23T22:49:52Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think there’s a word for this behavior… It’s something like “tree’s male child” IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3246 "2021-10-23T22:53:29Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I think it’s a word that none dare call it. If I were Cockney I might suggest ‘Oceanic freighter’ or ‘Meteor crater’ or ‘Mater and Pater’… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3247 "2021-10-24T00:24:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think there’s a word for this behavior… Actually, I was thinking “Republican” ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3248 "2021-10-24T01:14:24Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > There is a growing number, however ( **non-voters though some of them may be** ) who will do ANYTHING, literally ANYTHING, to be sure Donald _ **is** _ elected in 2024 A certain V. Putin came immediately to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3249 "2021-10-24T02:06:55Z")
" that Khyber is a roight oceanic " It could work ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3250 "2021-10-24T02:14:27Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (SNIP) > > Most Americans don’t want Donald Trump to be elected President in 2024. > > (SNIP) I’m not in the least confident this statement is accurate. Biden’s favorability ratings are tanking, the media is piling on and the Democrats in Congress are doing exactly nothing to help the situation. By 2024 Trump may well be able to win another term _legitimately_. This is my greatest fear. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3251 "2021-10-24T23:23:48Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > A certain V. Putin came immediately to mind. Indeed. And he’s not the only possibility. Many nations would be happy to lend a hand to destabilizing the USA, believing that would be to their advantage. And we know that Facebook and Fox News, among others, are all-in on that project. Both have leaders who believe (in my opinion) that a destabilized America is an America less willing and less able to regulate them or disturb their profits. \ > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > … By 2024 Trump may well be able to win another term _legitimately_ . This is my greatest fear. It’s reasonable to fear such an outcome, but is it as likely as you suggest? I don’t think so. I don’t think Trump could be elected legitimately. He has his hardcore 27% or so of the voters (virtually all energized by white-supremacism, with a few ‘I’ve got mine, Jack’ folks added in). But I can’t see him convincing any of the millions who voted against him in 2020, that he’s actually a better option than Biden or Harris or whoever is the Democratic candidate. They passed judgement on Donald and found him wanting (to say the least). We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3252 "2021-10-24T23:50:57Z")
I won’t put odds on how likely it is **Sherrerd** , but with Biden sinking in the polls, the media putting a negative spin on everything and the Dems in Congress hamstringing every major piece of legislation Biden puts forward, I don’t see it as being as unlikely for Trump to win in 2024 as it should be. The GQP will most likely take both chambers of Congress in 2022 and then BOOM, Biden is a lame duck, unable to get anything passed. Trump, McConnell and McCarthy will take advantage of this in every way they can. I live in a very dark blue city and I hear comments daily from people who I know are left/progressive in their thinking about how Biden is obviously senile or barely has a grip on things. The right has been pushing this narrative since 2019 and it is becoming more accepted by the general public every day. As for Harris, if you think you live in a country that will elect a woman, much less a non-white woman to be POTUS, then you live in a very different country than the one I experience every day. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3253 "2021-10-24T23:54:17Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I live in a very dark blue city and I hear comments daily from people who I know are left/progressive in their thinking about how Biden is obviously senile or barely has a grip on things. I can’t help feeling skeptical of this claim. I’m not seeing _any_ joking, let alone serious comments, from progressives about Biden not having a grip on things. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3254 "2021-10-25T00:34:11Z")
The fact you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. In fact, the opening sketch on SNL last night played this up. Be assured, it’s happening and it’s just going to get worse. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3255 "2021-10-25T00:39:47Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > The fact you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. In fact, the opening sketch on SNL last night played this up. Be assured, it’s happening and it’s just going to get worse. - Possibly. The one **certain** thing is that there will be people working to _sell_ that idea. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3256 "2021-10-25T01:44:55Z")
Agreed. I would say they are already working on it. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3257 "2021-10-25T02:40:23Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > By 2024 Trump may well be able to win another term _legitimately_ . This is my greatest fear. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s reasonable to fear such an outcome, but is it as likely as you suggest? I don’t think so. I don’t think Trump could be elected legitimately. He has his hardcore 27% or so of the voters (virtually all **energized** by white-supremacism, with a few ‘I’ve got mine, Jack’ folks added in). In last year’s election, Democrats were energized too, enough to yield the biggest Democrat voter turnout in U.S. history, with Trump’s energized turnout being the second biggest in U.S. history. That’s some energy! With Trump out of office now, the danger is that Democratic voters will not be as energized in 2022 or 2024, yet the Republicans still will be to some great amount. That’s why Republicans have such a good chance to take Congress next year and Trump in 2024. That’s what we need to be scared about. Democrats just don’t have it in them to be as outraged as Republicans do. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3258 "2021-10-25T02:45:29Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Democrats just don’t have it in them to be as outraged as Republicans do. Yes I do. Stand clear! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3259 "2021-10-25T02:48:31Z")
> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > Yes I do. Stand clear! I’m talking about Democrats _en masse_ of course. To be sure, there are many individual Democrats outraged (the political threads here in the Pit being evidence of that!) but overall, Democrats just aren’t built on outrage like Republicans are. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3260 "2021-10-25T04:13:25Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > With Trump out of office now, the danger is that Democratic voters will not be as energized in 2022 or 2024, yet the Republicans still will be to some great amount. That’s why Republicans have such a good chance to take Congress next year and Trump in 2024. The best way I can think of to energize Democrats in 2024 is to nominate Trump. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3261 "2021-10-25T09:04:50Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The best way I can think of to energize Democrats in 2024 is to nominate Trump. What’s the best way you can think of to energize Republicans in 2024? ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3262 "2021-10-25T09:21:45Z")
I don’t see anyone that the Republicans can nominate who will energize all their voters. It’s definitely not Trump. He fires up their base, and all their racists, but he turns moderates blue. Here in AZ, Trump lost because he convinced thousands of Republicans to vote for Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3263 "2021-10-25T12:09:15Z")
Hey, I came in here looking for some nice juicy Monday morning schadenfreude. Can we take the 2024 election discussion to another thread? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3264 "2021-10-25T14:46:14Z")
> **[Trump Has Weekend Freakout Over 'Horrible' Fox News Ads](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-weekend-freakout-over-horrible-040447931.html)** > > The former guy had a meltdown over his once-favorite network for running ads critical of him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=162) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=164)