# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 167
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3325 "2021-11-03T15:39:05Z")
The only Sister Mary Margaret I can find is the nun who embezzled $800+K from a Catholic school in SoCal. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3326 "2021-11-03T15:55:16Z")
I thought it was a Cheech and Chong reference. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3327 "2021-11-03T16:01:57Z")
That was Sister Mary Elephant. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3328 "2021-11-03T16:22:09Z")
I thought it was an SNL reference, so the mystery remains. Anyhoo The thing in Dallas is hilarious. All of these people lining the street with signs. It looked like some sort of bizarre reenactment of the JFK assassination. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3329 "2021-11-03T16:22:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Pardoned by his good buddy Donald, so his legal record is clean even if his soul is black and shrivelled. Commuted, not pardoned. i.e. “You did it but we don’t care,” – par for the Republican course in general and T\*\*\*\* in particular. In any event, having not learned a lesson, Stone is facing scrutiny over 1/6. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3330 "2021-11-03T16:31:40Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Commuted, not pardoned. i.e. “You did it but we don’t care,” – par for the Republican course in general and T\*\*\*\* in particular. [Commuted and then pardoned](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-24/trump-pardons-ex-campaign-chief-manafort-adviser-roger-stone). ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3331 "2021-11-03T17:06:51Z")
Pardoned is not the same as exonerated. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3332 "2021-11-03T17:39:33Z")
I thought a pardon effectively cleared his record (as opposed to commutation, which is just about the sentence). I mean, he still did the shit he was convicted of, but from a legal standpoint he’s no longer a felon. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3333 "2021-11-03T17:45:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > That was Sister Mary Elephant. Shuuuuuuuut Uuuuuuuuuup! Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3334 "2021-11-03T17:49:32Z")
Maybe the Sister Mary Margaret comment was in relation to this person: > **[Despite her vow of poverty, nun stole more than $835,000 from a Catholic...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/09/nun-embezzlement-gambling-california-kreuper/)** > > Sister Mary Margaret Kreuper, 79, pleaded guilt to wire fraud and money laundering charges after prosecutors said she embezzled more than $835,000 from St. James Catholic School in Torrance, Calif. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3335 "2021-11-03T18:00:49Z")
Those Catholics and their inside jokes… ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3336 "2021-11-03T21:32:55Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I genuinely don’t know what’s going on in this thread at this point or how it relates to Trump and friends (apart from the dumb QAnon thing). The thread is a free-wheeling expression of emotions to which we normally do not admit (vindictiveness, etc.)–its meat is the things we might not care to type in other political threads. When things get personal in _that_ atmosphere, resort to the lowest common denominator is not only routine, it’s expected. (Or something to that effect.) > > [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > I don’t understand why. He was an ex-husband of one of T’s ex-wives. The connection is a little tenuous even for a little schadenfreude. > > “Yes, Sister Mary Margaret…” My interpretation of the SMM reference is that Mundane\_Super\_Hero was commenting on Roderick\_Femm’s somewhat dictatorial tone. MSH was hinting to RF that RF is not the boss of us (in the way that a strict and demanding nun may be the boss of the children attending her class). Or so I took it. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3337 "2021-11-03T21:44:39Z")
Yes, he was implying that Roderick was a bit of a scold. That’s how I read it. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3338 "2021-11-03T22:09:34Z")
I see I need to work on my tone. Neither scolding nor being dictatorial was in my mind. I genuinely didn’t get the rancor towards that man who died. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3339 "2021-11-03T23:21:50Z")
My problem is that the thread immediately turned into two posters insulting each other back and forth, with no concern as to the subject of the thread. This one wasn’t as bad as some threads, where it can go on for 20+ posts, and meanwhile someone tries to post something on-topic, and it gets buried in the ongoing grudge match. Sorry, pet peeve… okay, back to the world of Schadenfreude… ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3340 "2021-11-04T01:42:10Z")
Here’s some! As we already know, Smartmatic is suing Fox. Now it’s OANN and Newsmax’s turn and if they are successful, it’s going to hurt. Bad. Especially because Dominion is also suing them. [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/business/media/smartmatic-newsmax-oan.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/business/media/smartmatic-newsmax-oan.html) > Smartmatic, an election technology firm that became a target of pro-Trump conspiracy theories about the 2020 presidential race, sued Newsmax and One America News Network on Wednesday for defamation, demanding that the conservative cable networks face jury trials for spreading falsehoods about the company. > For Newsmax and One America News — relatively fledgling outlets that have nurtured small but devoted followings — the stakes may be existential. Unlike Fox, which is hugely profitable, Newsmax and One America News are poorly positioned to absorb significant financial penalties. > “They’re both powerful lawsuits,” said Floyd Abrams, a renowned First Amendment lawyer. “I think it’s unlikely that the defendants will make strong arguments that what they carried was accurate.” ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3341 "2021-11-04T01:49:04Z")
Smartmatic should add AT&T to the suit, since we now know that AT&T is by and large OANN’s source of funding. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3342 "2021-11-04T01:49:39Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > My interpretation of the SMM reference is that Mundane\_Super\_Hero was commenting on Roderick\_Femm’s somewhat dictatorial tone. MSH was hinting to RF that RF is not the boss of us (in the way that a strict and demanding nun may be the boss of the children attending her class). > > Or so I took it. Bullseye. > [@romansperson](#): > > Here’s some! As we already know, Smartmatic is suing Fox. Now it’s OANN and Newsmax’s turn and if they are successful, it’s going to hurt. Bad. Especially because Dominion is also suing them. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/udfhBjR-FtA/hqdefault.jpg "Rodney Dangerfield - "Now I know why tigers eat their young" - Caddyshack") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udfhBjR-FtA) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3343 "2021-11-04T05:33:06Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Smartmatic should add AT&T to the suit, since we now know that AT&T is by and large OANN’s source of funding. It’s a bit murky… AT&T was very much involved with OAN’s creation, it’s basically a child of AT&T. And OAN is largely funded by contacts with DirecTV, which is owned by AT&T. So in that sense they are kept alive by AT&T, but since it’s not direct (no pun intended) I don’t think there is any legal liability there. On the other hand, it’s obvious that AT&T has a huge stake in the success of OAN (and its channel OANN). So any attack on OAN is an attack on AT&T, at least as direct an attack as their funding. So it probably isn’t necessary to try to find a way to sue AT&T over this; AT&T is already being harmed by these suits. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3344 "2021-11-04T11:59:13Z")
I’ve always been amazed how people suing can stretch things to ensure they hit the people with the deepest pockets, no matter how tenuous the relationship. It would just be nice to see that happen here, where it’s so richly deserved (and the connection seems a bit more solid). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=166) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=168)