# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/321 "2021-01-14T23:56:20Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I’ve been saying for years now that Trump will loot the White House, then set off bombs or fires to cover up the thefts in the general destruction. Is there an inventory of White House property? I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if Trump decided to loot every possible “souvenir” he could find that wasn’t red hot or nailed down (possibly for future sale in the MAGA Store), but it would surprise me if there was no way of identifying what was missing. (I hope I’m not just being ridiculously naive again by imagining that the bombs-or-fires prospect doesn’t seem all that credible: after all, it’s certainly not the Trumps themselves lugging the boxes, and presumably any of the working people who are doing the actual moving can be held liable for damage.) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/322 "2021-01-15T00:07:29Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Is there an inventory of White House property? Historian Michael Beschloss did quite a bit of tweeting about this, today. He referred to the “White House Permanent Collection,” which does seem likely to be a cataloged inventory. > [@Kimstu](#): > > (I hope I’m not just being ridiculously naive again by imagining that the bombs-or-fires prospect doesn’t seem all that credible: after all, it’s certainly not the Trumps themselves lugging the boxes, and presumably any of the working people who are doing the actual moving can be held liable for damage.) The fire/bombing would be for the purpose of making sure that the Permanent Collection inventory could not be taken–a step that probably happens starting January 21st of every transition. So the activities of moving-van personnel now wouldn’t have anything to do with a decision to blow up the White House. The destruction of the building would simply make sure than no inventory could be taken, and therefore no Trump can be fingered for having ordered the removal of valuable objects. (One of Beschloss’s series of tweets about the stuff being removed: > ---
**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/323 "2021-01-15T00:24:34Z")
Unless you can cite the specific law making it illegal, that’s just a norm earlier losers followed. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/324 "2021-01-15T02:13:53Z")
And even if there is a law against it, why should Trump care? Laws are only for the “low-class” peon types too. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/325 "2021-01-15T03:44:01Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@JohnT](#): > > > > (Bursts into song) > > > > [https://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1349541228765917186?s=19](https://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1349541228765917186?s=19) > > > [@Cervaise](#): > > > > I hope someone is checking those boxes for silverware and artworks. > > Since you mention it: > > [https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1349810898454638592](https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1349810898454638592) > > I’ve been saying for years now that Trump will loot the White House, then set off bombs or fires to cover up the thefts in the general destruction. > > The fact that he’ll be able to blame the smoking ruins on “a plot” by Biden or Obama or Pelosi or Hillary—and be believed without question by his fans, both those in Congress and those outside—will just be icing on the Beautiful Piece of Chocolate Cake for Donnie-boy. Perhaps a chocolate pie would be more appropriate, especially if it was made by Octavia Spencer… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/326 "2021-01-15T05:06:45Z")
Anderson Cooper: “Our sources indicate that he is stiffing Rudy Giuliani, and is not paying him for his legal work, such as it was.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/327 "2021-01-15T05:16:46Z")
I can’t help it: I like that guy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/328 "2021-01-15T05:24:06Z")
While I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t try to steal the Resolute desk, I’m not getting worked up about this. The administration changeover, for the White House staff, is a huge endeavor with lots of moving parts. They will be doing a lot of “refreshing”, replacing carpets, painting, changing light fixtures, etc. It is very possible they are using trucks in order to store items while work is being done. Ive seen it done with that type of commercial renovations. It’s way quicker and easier to pull a truck to the closest door and load it than it is drag the stuff to a storeroom in some distant basement, and easier to get it back when they’re done. They could be stealing stuff, but there are other explanations. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/329 "2021-01-15T06:09:47Z")
This is the Trump “administration” of course they’re stealing stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/330 "2021-01-15T06:41:08Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Anderson Cooper: “Our sources indicate that he is stiffing Rudy Giuliani, and is not paying him for his legal work, such as it was.” If there is anybody who can collect on a debt, it’s a lawyer. Between the judgments and the writs and the bailiffs who seize property legally, it’s a lawyer who is behind it all. Trump is no lawyer, he understands little about legal procedures, and he would do well just to pay what he owes Rudy, because Rudy knows how to make Trump pay. I don’t imagine Trump would like plumbers arriving to de-install his golden toilet, in order to sell it to pay Rudy’s fees, but the court order–and the attending sheriffs and bailiffs–would make him. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/331 "2021-01-15T06:47:14Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > If there is anybody who can collect on a debt, it’s a lawyer. (observes Giuliani’s work over the last couple of years) (makes Larry David “ehhhhh” face) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/332 "2021-01-15T14:35:35Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > If there is anybody who can collect on a debt, it’s a lawyer. But Rudy is a lawyer on the level of Lionel Hutz, Barry Zuckercorn, or Bob Loblaw. And odds are he’ll be disbarred before too long. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/333 "2021-01-15T16:45:36Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Anderson Cooper: “Our sources indicate that he is stiffing Rudy Giuliani, and is not paying him for his legal work, such as it was.” To be fair, Trump’s standard “You did crappy work so I won’t pay” excuse would actually be valid this time. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/334 "2021-01-15T17:08:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Bob Loblaw. _Bob Loblaw no habla español._ It’s such a dumb joke, but I love it. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/335 "2021-01-15T21:06:02Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > _Bob Loblaw no habla español._ > > It’s such a dumb joke, but I love it. _Arrested Development_ often made me laugh against my will. Too hard. And speaking of Barry Zuckercorn…it made me smile way too broadly when I saw Michael Cohen for the first time and realized what a dead ringer he was for Barry. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/336 "2021-01-15T21:12:41Z")
There’s a far right rag, American Thinker, which apparently made a few mistakes in its reporting and would like to correct them; [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50839324672_949fe2c79f_z.jpg "2021-01-15\_03-10-36") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/50839324672/) I can only assume the demand letter was covered in asbestos and delivered with oven mitts, because this retraction was written by people who have finally seen the ways of Jesus and are mighty sorry for their sins. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/337 "2021-01-15T21:16:52Z")
GUYS!!! > [https://www.nraforward.org/waynesletter](https://www.nraforward.org/waynesletter) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/338 "2021-01-15T21:21:23Z")
> [@](#): > > To facilitate the strategic plan and restructuring, the NRA and one of its subsidiaries have filed voluntary chapter 11 petitions in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Northern District of Texas, Dallas Division. As you may know, chapter 11 proceedings are often utilized by businesses, nonprofits and organizations of all kinds to streamline legal and financial affairs. > … > The NRA is not insolvent. **We are as financially strong as we have been in years.** Anyone with understanding of US bankruptcy law: how can you file for bankruptcy if you’re not insolvent? 🧐 Second, if you’re under investigation and facing potential dissolution under one state’s regulatory laws, can you just file for bankruptcy to skip to another state? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/339 "2021-01-15T21:26:02Z")
IANAL, but I don’t think one has to be 100% destitute to declare bankruptcy, just unable to meet current obligations. For example, the NRA may make enough $ to keep operating, but not enough to pay their interest payments, ergo, bankruptcy. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/340 "2021-01-15T21:27:55Z")
I guess I’m unclear on the distinction between “unable to meet current obligations” and “insolvency”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=18)