# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 170
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3385 "2021-11-10T16:06:07Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > That was _three weeks_ ago and not a damned thing has happened. Three weeks is very fast, traditionally, for the DoJ, especially for something that can look politically motivated. But these are not traditional times. Garland is stuck between trying to return the department to ‘normalcy’ and taking actions that will best preserve what’s left of our democracy. There did not used to be a conflict between those goals and many would argue a careful, considered approach is best in the normal course of affairs (which of course includes an opposition that at least pays lip service to the idea we live in a democracy), but these are not normal times and Garland hasn’t fully twigged to that. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3386 "2021-11-10T22:56:16Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > We’ll see if anything comes of more subpoenas. Bear in mind Bannon openly blew off his subpoena and was referred to the Dept of Justice for prosecution. That was _three weeks_ ago and not a damned thing has happened. The judge’s decision that Trump can’t suppress all those documents may well have a bearing on the Bannon subpoena case. Trump argued both on the grounds of his imagined perpetual executive privilege. The judge ruled that Trump doesn’t control executive privilege now that he’s not president. That could mean there’s no longer any argument for defying subpoenas on the name of executive privilege either. Let’s hope that this gives Garland the cue he’s been waiting for. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3387 "2021-11-10T23:57:14Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > But these are not traditional times. Garland is stuck between trying to return the department to ‘normalcy’ and taking actions that will best preserve what’s left of our democracy. Taking actions that will preserve our democracy is how we get back to normalcy. Garland is incompetent and needs to resign ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3388 "2021-11-11T00:05:18Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > That could mean there’s no longer any argument for defying subpoenas on the name of executive privilege either. Let’s hope that this gives Garland the cue he’s been waiting for. This is as optimistic a take as I think I could manage. However, I wonder what the committee’s response will be when those called to testify revert to: Fuck you, I’m just not coming in. Oh, and if I do come in, I’m not saying anything. I forsee that coming next. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3389 "2021-11-11T00:46:19Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > However, I wonder what the committee’s response will be If I were them, I’d mock them for having less courage than Hillary Clinton. Since most of them are toxic men, I might even phrase it as, “What happened to your balls, boy? HRC has bigger ones than all y’all put together.” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3390 "2021-11-11T00:56:04Z")
I’m not Hillary Clinton, but I approve this message. Paid for by Republicans are Pussies LLC. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3391 "2021-11-12T03:09:09Z")
hehe > **[Twitter permanently bans Newsmax White House correspondent](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-business-media-misinformation-arts-and-entertainment-527bb99e752c9d448211bdbc8fb2281d)** > > NEW YORK (AP) — Twitter says it has permanently banned Newsmax White House correspondent Emerald Robinson from its service for repeated violations of its COVID-19 misinformation policy. The social media company had earlier given Robinson a one-week... ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3392 "2021-11-12T03:57:52Z")
Is it ok that when reading this, I imagined it being delivered by Paulie Walnuts? ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3393 "2021-11-12T15:02:49Z")
HRC’s big balls are the reason why she’s so hated. A LOT of folks (e.g., the GOP) hate for a woman to have confidence and other “masculine” traits. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3394 "2021-11-12T17:34:05Z")
I think PJ O’Rourke nailed out when he called Hillary “America’s Ex-Wife”. I’m really convinced that’s why so many men can’t stand her. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3395 "2021-11-12T21:19:28Z")
[Trump strategist Steve Bannon indicted on contempt charges in Jan. 6 investigation (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-strategist-steve-bannon-indicted-on-contempt-charges-in-jan-6-investigation/ar-AAQDRBX?ocid=msedgntp) At last. Will the dam break? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3396 "2021-11-12T21:49:11Z")
Bonus points for being among the more odious ones. Nazi wannabe Stephen Miller is about the only one higher (or lower) on my list. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3397 "2021-11-12T23:31:54Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > [Trump strategist Steve Bannon indicted on contempt charges in Jan. 6 investigation (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-strategist-steve-bannon-indicted-on-contempt-charges-in-jan-6-investigation/ar-AAQDRBX?ocid=msedgntp) > > At last. Will the dam break? It IS a hell of a precedent. Mark Meadows will likely be the next test of the DOJ’s newly-revealed policy of supporting Legislative branch power-to-subpoena (without being ignored). I have to say that aside from schadenfreude for Bannon, my overwhelming reaction was one of RELIEF. Perhaps…just perhaps…there is some hope for the rule of law, after all…??? ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3398 "2021-11-13T02:03:05Z")
Not really sure where to put this one - it could fit several threads - but this works as well as any other. [Emails reveal new details of Trump White House interference in CDC Covid planning](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/12/trump-cdc-covid-521128) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3399 "2021-11-13T02:34:41Z")
I wasn’t happy long, after checking out Don Winslow’s Twitter. Don Winslow (@donwinslow) Tweeted: Steve Bannon is not going to jail. He will be arrested, make immediate bail and will be free within HOURS. None of this will compel him to testify or hand over anything. This is what they wanted. For it to enter THE COURTS. This is why the year wasted will be LETHAL. [https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1459275198788603905?s=20](https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1459275198788603905?s=20) ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3400 "2021-11-13T14:49:36Z")
Well, it was either get it into the courts or do nothing. I prefer the former. The case against Bannon is pretty simple. He was subpoenaed. He didn’t show or produce documents. AIUI, the Executive Privilege argument is baseless. Expedite the whole thing. Deny requests for postponements. The stakes are too high to let it time out. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3401 "2021-11-13T15:02:31Z")
And it may persuade others to testify rather than refuse. But what concerns me about the Jan 6th committee is the clock running out. But as MikeF noted: “nothing” is not an option. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3402 "2021-11-13T15:26:20Z")
Full headline: **Video shows Steve Bannon apparently unaware as a TV behind him flashed the news he had been indicted** > **[Video shows Steve Bannon apparently unaware as a TV behind him flashed the...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows-steve-bannon-apparently-125523930.html)** > > Steve Bannon did not address the MSNBC headline behind him, containing the news that he had been indicted on two counts of contempt of Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3403 "2021-11-13T16:29:19Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I wasn’t happy long, after checking out Don Winslow’s Twitter. > Don Winslow (@donwinslow) Tweeted: > Steve Bannon is not going to jail. > > He will be arrested, make immediate bail and will be free within HOURS. > > None of this will compel him to testify or hand over anything. > > This is what they wanted. For it to enter THE COURTS. > > This is why the year wasted will be LETHAL. [https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1459275198788603905?s=20](https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1459275198788603905?s=20) I think this Don Winslow has it all wrong. The issues behind January 6 are not going into the courts, which seems to be what he is saying. He seems in fact to have several points wrong. Bannon’s court case will not be long and drawn out. The only point at issue is whether Congress had jurisdiction to subpoena him and his documents. The very likely resolution of that is that yes, Congress does have that authority, and since Bannon publicly refused to cooperate, ipso facto, guilty. The combination of judicial confirmation that Congress has the authority to subpoena people and documents about January 6, and DOJ’s willingness to prosecute that crime, is the two-pronged attack that will see a lot more cooperation among other witnesses than would otherwise be the case. Or, as MikeF said, it was either this or do nothing. These steps represent the only teeth that Congress has in this kind of investigation. I wonder what Mr. Winslow would have had Congress do instead? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3404 "2021-11-13T17:16:54Z")
I think Bannon’s indictment smacks of Mueller’s Report, which a lot of people thought would finally nail Trump, but it was all sound and fury signifying nothing. Somehow the political molasses won’t amount to anything substantive and Bannon knows it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=169) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=171)