# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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If you would like to read the an account of that meeting from the seditionist POV, here’s Patrick Byrnes rather long-winded ( the guy is full of himself) but amusing tale of crashing the White House on Dec 18th.

> **[How DJT Lost the White House, Chapter 3: Crashing the White House (December...](https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/02/how-djt-lost-the-white-house-chapter-3-crashing-the-white-house-december-18/)**

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It’s like one of those Silver Age stories where the villain captures the hero and puts him on “trial” for the “crime” of interfering with the villain’s schemes:

> **[Trump sues New York attorney general in attempt to halt inquiry into his company](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-new-york-lawsuit-attorney-general/2021/12/20/cea50b68-61a5-11ec-a7e8-3a8455b71fad_story.html?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjEyNzIwMzMiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjQwMDUzNTU1LCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjQxMjYzMTU1LCJpYXQiOjE2NDAwNTM1NTUsImp0aSI6IjA3YWM1YTVlLTZhYTUtNDM4My04MDUyLTU2ZjFmYzA4YmE2NiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy90cnVtcC1uZXcteW9yay1sYXdzdWl0LWF0dG9ybmV5LWdlbmVyYWwvMjAyMS8xMi8yMC9jZWE1MGI2OC02MWE1LTExZWMtYTdlOC0zYTg0NTViNzFmYWRfc3RvcnkuaHRtbCJ9.IvQfbYjQSaZY1tslKHVJQaciYcJx-WRAl7Zf0XMznDw&itid=gfta)**
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> Letitia James is trying to get the former president to testify under oath.

> …In the lawsuit, filed in a federal court in Upstate New York on behalf of Trump and his real estate company, the former president alleges that James’s inquiry into his business practices has violated his constitutional rights.
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> “Her mission is guided solely by political animus and a desire to harass, intimidate, and retaliate against a private citizen who she views as a political opponent,” Trump claims in the suit…

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3849 "2021-12-21T02:59:28Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> “Her mission is guided solely by political animus and a desire to harass, intimidate, and retaliate against a private citizen **who** she views as a political opponent,” Trump claims in the suit…

Nice grammar there. Even though I doubt he wrote it, whoever did doesn’t know the difference between who and whom.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Nice grammar there. Even though I doubt he wrote it, **whoever** did doesn’t know the difference between who and whom. -

Shouldn’t that be “whomever”?  
:flees:

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More to the point, the Orange Peril is now thinking of running for NY AG?

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“Whomsoever”

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3853 "2021-12-21T03:09:08Z")

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Nope. That’s not right.

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Whomsoeverthefuck.

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Didn’t he change his residency to Florida last year? (Yes, he did.)

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/3856 "2021-12-21T03:15:47Z")

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So, how is Letitia James a political opponent?

There I go again, trying to derive a scintilla of logic from one of his pronouncements.

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His default playbook. Throw a punch (file a lawsuit), however weak, because your opponent has to spend time and effort dealing with it. Admittedly the analogy is strained, but the occupy-your-foe’s-resources part is well-observed as a Trump move.

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Trump’s tactics always remind me of the Mafia’s: “We’re just a decent hardworking family of patriots! Why are the government always persecuting us?” approach.

Probably not a coincidence either.

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I got fed up with the long-windedness a few paragraphs in, but it’s fascinating how clueless he makes himself seem.

Ordinary military discipline is taken as special deference for Mike Flynn. The standard politeness of a “Thank you Mr. Byrne” when returning his ID is interpreted as him being at least a little bit famous. Trump’s “I could just leave and play golf” is the lead in to a way to long section on how Trump and he are just the same kind of leader burdened with hard work and responsibility. Yeah, Trump is so very concerned about his responsibilities …

I keep thinking it’s a pity so many people worked to reign in Trump’s worst and dumbest impulses, but I’m not sure it wouldn’t have just meant half the country followed him off the cliff and murdered the rest of us.

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I think he should have said exactly what the (I’m paraphrasing) “low spoken meaningful words” from Trump were. And he called the guys that were saying ‘you can’t do this’ bitches! Jeez…

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> This oughta put a smile on some faces:
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> [Trump reveals he got COVID-19 booster shot; crowd boos him | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-74abcd4e6833835f5df445fe2142e22b)

Think of the lives he could save if he sternly shut down the MAGAheads who booed him, and told them directly - and often, from now on, as he should have done a year ago - that the vaccines are safe and that they all should get their shots. But I think he’s incapable of it, as it would require at least some measure of both empathy and political courage.

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> But I think he’s incapable of it, as it would require at least some measure of both empathy and political courage.

This is the guy who tried to excuse neo-Nazis because they voted for him.

He’s also the guy who gently asked his followers to “remain peaceful” and go home as they literally tried to overthrow the government after he whipped them into a frenzy.

[![](https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/stop_dont_come_back_willy_wonka.gif) ](https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/stop_dont_come_back_willy_wonka.gif)

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Even though I doubt he wrote it, whoever did doesn’t know the difference between who and whom.

With vocabulary like “animus”, it’s clear that he didn’t write that any more than he wrote _Hamlet_.

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“To tweet or not to tweet? Everyone says that’s the question. Everyone, that’s what they say. Whether 'tis more bigly for my stable genius to stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot someone, or… Man, woman, person, TV, camera.”

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> More to the point, the Orange Peril is now thinking of running for NY AG?

A man of many hats, President, Speaker of the House, and NY AG. The wonder of it is that he performs all of them equally well.

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Didn’t he change his residency to Florida last year? (Yes, he did.)

Like piddling little details like that have ever given him pause, never mind stopped him.

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> [@naita](#):
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> I keep thinking it’s a pity so many people worked to reign in Trump’s worst and dumbest impulses

A pregnant typo.

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