# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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What facts disagree with Sean on that statement?

This is not a real question.

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> **[Mike Pence's Staff Is Giving Up the Goods to the Jan. 6 Committee: Report](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mike-pence-jan-6-committee-cooperation-1279963/)**
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> Mike Pence's staff is playing an "integral" role in helping the Jan. 6 committee flesh out what happened, Axios reported on Wednesdsay.

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> [Axios reported on Wednesday](https://www.axios.com/pence-team-helping-jan-6-committee-d634d742-77f9-4e1f-a0ef-d92b81fbcfcb.html) that “many” figures around the former vice president have voluntarily testified, including his former chief of staff, Marc Short, and his former press secretary, Alyssa Farrah. Keith Kellogg, Pence’s national security adviser who was [subpoenaed by the committee](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/stephen-miller-kayleigh-mcenany-subpoenaed-jan-6-committee-1255371/) in November, also gave a deposition.

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> Short, Farrah, and Kellogg aren’t the only staffers to cooperate. Axios notes that multiple tiers of Pence’s staff who were at the White House on Jan. 6 have been “integral” in helping the committee flesh out what happened. “From the two I was in, you could see how much information they already had,” Farrah told Axios of her meetings with the committee last year.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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Gee it turns out that sending out a rampaging mob to murder a person and everyone connected to them isn’t the best way to guarantee their cooperation in covering it up. Who woulda thunk?

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And yet the main target seems to still be cooperating in covering it up.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
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Biden’s Full 01/06/2022 Speech: Mic Drop!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3g_4EMvbVw0/maxresdefault.jpg "JUST IN: Biden Excoriates Trump Over January 6 Violence On Anniversary") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g_4EMvbVw0)

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I’m in tears! That was the most patriotic and moving speech I have ever heard.

Go Biden!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
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> “You could see how much information they already had,” former Pence Press Secretary Alyssa Farrah

Look for at least some of Trump’s enablers to start falling like dominoes as they come to realize how much the Committee already has without them.

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President Biden had some good lines in that speech.

Defeated former president. My favorite.

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But who is the “Former President” he kept referring to? My money’s on JFK, controlling everything from his Oval Office under Dealey Plaza, but I couldn’t understand him from all his Covid coughing.  
/ct

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Those would be his _special_ facts…

Surely you mean _alternative_ facts.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Gee it turns out that sending out a rampaging mob to murder a person and everyone connected to them isn’t the best way to guarantee their cooperation in covering it up.

Like the old saying about striking at a king, if you try to kill somebody to silence them you had better not miss.

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Look for at least some of Trump’s enablers to start falling like dominoes as they come to realize how much the Committee already has without them.

We may be closer than we thought to the good part, where the competition in the upper MAGAsphere to throw each other under the bus starts heating up… 😆

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My Trumpist SIL has already flounced on social media about the speech and Biden blaming Trump for “everything wrong” and daring to “quote Scripture”. I just don’t have the energy anymore to deal with her bullshit anymore. She also spouts “plandemic” nonsense. If it weren’t that I like her kids (my niece and nephews) I’d cut her out of my life completely.

Anyway - my point is that Biden’s speech is unlikely to move the needle on anyone who still supports Trump. The truth ain’t setting anyone free today. But kudos to Joe for making the effort.

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Good speech. I like and think it was extremely necessary for Biden, as POTUS, to lay it out in plain English: Donald Trump planned and incited a coup attempt.

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It had to be said, but I agree, it won’t budge more than a half-dozen MAGAheads from their delusions, if even that.

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Individual 1 is, not surprisingly, butt hurt about Biden’s speech. He complained that Biden used his name to divide the country. Biden never once called Individual 1 by name.

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> We may be closer than we thought to the good part, where the competition in the upper MAGAsphere to throw each other under the bus starts heating up…

I bought a case of microwave popcorn at CostCo just last week.

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That speech really got under his thin, orange skin. He has released four “statements” today on his old timey blog site, all crying about Biden and his stealing of the election.

Delicious schadenfreude.

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Is there a good write up of the speech somewhere?

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I bought a case of microwave popcorn at CostCo just last week.

ACK I had a roommate who always nuked that stuff and then the place would have this super gross chemical stench - not too popcornish.

> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Is there a good write up of the speech somewhere?

I thought this one was not bad, throwing in a little historical context.

> **[Biden’s speech both rallying cry and cry of despair over the persistence of...](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-bidens-speech-both-rallying-cry-and-cry-of-despair-over-the/)**
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> Not since the Civil War have the divisions between Americans, and between the lawmakers who represent them, been so stark

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Here y’all go:

> **[Remarks By President Biden To Mark One Year Since The January 6th Deadly...](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/01/06/remarks-by-president-biden-to-mark-one-year-since-the-january-6th-deadly-assault-on-the-u-s-capitol/)**
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> South Court AuditoriumEisenhower Executive Office Building 9:16 A.M. EST THE PRESIDENT:  Madam Vice President, my fellow Americans: To state the obvious,

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4006 "2022-01-06T20:31:20Z")

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And for completeness:

> **[Remarks by Vice President Harris Marking One Year Since the January 6th...](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/01/06/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-marking-one-year-since-the-january-6th-deadly-assault-on-the-u-s-capitol/)**
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> U.S. CapitolWashington, D.C. 9:07 A.M. EST THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Fellow Americans, good morning.Certain dates echo throughout history, including dates

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