# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
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They’re going to be fined $50,000 a day if they don’t turn over all of the documents the county is requesting.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
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The Arizona Republic is a news company. Maricopa county is not a party to the suit.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4029 "2022-01-07T22:41:26Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I swear the first time I read this I thought you said “chicken” and was about to ask what that story was about.

Pretty sure that was an episode of _MASH_. You know, the one with the child, the chicken and the bus.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4030 "2022-01-07T22:43:38Z")

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“Pathetic thing”. – [Adam Kinzinger](https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/status/1479298762115883011)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4031 "2022-01-07T22:53:54Z")

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She’s not an elected official, so political suicide isn’t so much a thing for her. Her route to riches will be selling her book and working the talk show circuit. She seems to be trying to refurbish her image as the principled staffer who couldn’t sit back and watch her boss ruin the country, which is an undeveloped niche market she could fill.

I think Raskin dropping this info without details is an attempt to rattle people in the woodwork who might wonder what he knows and think it might look better to come forward and cooperate rather than go down.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
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> **[Lawyers Challenging Biden's Covid Vaccine Rules Both Have Covid](https://jezebel.com/lawyers-challenging-bidens-covid-vaccine-rules-both-hav-1848322407)**
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> The two were, ironically, both forced to argue the case remotely.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4033 "2022-01-08T00:07:10Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > “Every word Ted Cruz uses is used intentionally. He’s a lawyer,” Carlson said Wednesday night. “He described Jan. 6 as a violent terrorist attack. Of all the things Jan. 6 was, it was definitely not a violent terrorist attack. It wasn’t an insurrection. Was it a riot? Sure. It was not a violent terrorist attack. Sorry! So why are you telling us that it was, Ted Cruz?” -
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> I’ll bet if you beat Fucker with a flagpole, he would claim he was violently attacked and press charges.

Carlson, in his “White Power Hour,” as Rick Wilson calls it, has been re-writing history from the day itself onward. Now he is saying that all that happened to Capitol police and other law enforcement officers is

> [@](#):
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> Police got shoved, unfortunately, punches were thrown.

And it’s not as though any of those punches even landed!!!11!!!

The reality:

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> About 140 officers were injured during the attack, when a mob of former President Donald Trump’s supporters ransacked the building to temporarily halt the counting of Electoral College votes that certified President Joe Biden’s victory.
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> Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died from natural causes the day after the attack, when he confronted rioters and was sprayed with chemicals. Four other Capitol Police and D.C. Metro police officers who defended the Capitol died by suicide in the weeks and months later. …

> **[US Capitol Police chief: 153 officers have left force since Jan. 6; hiring is...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/01/05/capitol-police-officers-left-since-jan-6/9104403002/)**
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> Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger told a Senate panel his goal is to hire 280 officers per year for the next three years to overcome staffing losses.

More:

> **[Officers maced, trampled: Docs expose depth of Jan. 6 chaos](https://apnews.com/article/docs-expose-depth-january-6-capitol-siege-chaos-fd3204574c11e453be8fb4e3c81258c3)**
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> Two firefighters loaned to Washington for the day said they were the only medics on the Capitol steps Jan. 6, trying to triage injured officers as they watched the angry mob swell and attack police working to protect Congress.

But Tucker says all that happened was that some officers were “shoved”----so that must be the truth…right?

> **[Tucker Carlson downplayed the Capitol riot as DC commemorated its...](https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-says-on-january-6-anniversary-barely-a-footnote-2022-1)**
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> The Fox News host heavily downplayed the January 6 Capitol riot, omitting key facts and saying "really not a lot happened that day."

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> But Tucker says all that happened was that some officers were “shoved”----so that must be the truth…right? -

Hey, Tucker,[These officers were “shoved”, right?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVZvp-Dv0gg)  
(Officer being crushed in door)

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Hey, Tucker,[These officers were “shoved”, right?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVZvp-Dv0gg)  
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I suspect no one who would confront Tucker over his blatant lies is ever permitted to get near enough to shout such a question.

When it comes to schadenfreude, we all have our little lists. Seeing Tucker face some consequences (likely through civil lawsuits) is pretty high on my list, I can tell you.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4036 "2022-01-08T01:12:46Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> [Tucker Carlson Downplays Capitol Riot 1 Year on, Calls It 'Footnote'](https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-says-on-january-6-anniversary-barely-a-footnote-2022-1)

What a slimy little shitweasel.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4037 "2022-01-08T01:17:11Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> What a slimy little shitweasel. -

And Fox News’ top ratings attraction!

Also a likely entrant into elective politics, according to some:

> **[Tucker Carlson 2024? The GOP is buzzing](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/02/tucker-carlson-2024-republicans-348334)**
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> The Fox News host's ratings have gone gangbusters, and many Republicans think he'd be a force in a Republican primary.

Just when we thought no one who surpassed Donald Trump in moral depravity could possibly enter our politics…

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**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\
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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I want to know if anyone in Congress gave the terrorists maps, tours or other material assistance in the days/weeks before the insurrection attempt.

Lauren Boebert’s denial is parsed very carefully.

“All of your claims and implications are categorically false. I have never given a tour of the U.S. Capitol to any outside group.” So, what kind of group did you give a tour to?

“Again, the only people I have ever had in the Capitol with me during the 117th Congress are my young children, husband, mom, aunt and uncle.” And who did you have in the Capitol with you prior to the 117th Congress?

> **[Lauren Boebert Denies Giving Insurrectionists A Tour of US Capitol](https://www.cpr.org/2021/01/18/lauren-boebert-said-she-didnt-give-insurrectionists-or-anyone-else-a-tour-of-the-u-s-capitol/)**
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> A fellow member of Congress on Monday said that he had seen Rep.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
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I was watching Ancient Aliens this afternoon - History Channel conspiracy shows are a guilty pleasure of mine - and some “ancient alien researcher” (their term for crackpot) was playing some interview clip of fucking Fucker Carlson acting all outraged because he thought Trump knew more than he admitted to about alien visitations.

Apparently presidential candidates always promise to release all the evidence of alien visitations and never do, so that’s proof of a big giant conspiracy that all the Republican presidents are in on. The show theorized that _they_ don’t tell Democratic presidents about the alien stuff. They really said this.

Fucker really will say anything for money, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I was watching Ancient Aliens this afternoon - History Channel conspiracy shows are a guilty pleasure of mine

No. Just no.

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Fucker Carlson acting all outraged because he thought Trump knew more than he admitted to about alien visitations

This is absurd on its face, because if Trump was given any kind of briefing on such a sensational subject, it would be literally impossible for him to resist talking about it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4042 "2022-01-08T07:27:17Z")

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I’ve always found Ancient Aliens to be extremely insulting. The entire thing is based solely on the premise that human beings could not possibly come up with technological and artistic innovations on their own, and everything came from aliens. (Probably because these knuckleheads have no actual skills, surely ancient humans couldn’t have figured things out either.)

But then, who taught those aliens? I’m sure it would be other aliens. It’s aliens all the way down.

> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> “ancient alien researcher” (their term for crackpot)

Excuse me, the term is “ancient astronaut theorist”. 🤓

(My wife insists on having that shit on at night to help her go to sleep, I can’t stand it.)

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“Who made the maker?” goes interstellar.

Dan

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> What a slimy little shitweasel.

Somewhere in Florida, an actual slimy little shitweasel just looked up and said,  
“Hey, that’s offensive…!”

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Awww. . .that’s a real shame, said nobody with a fucking brain ever.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I suspect no one who would confront Tucker over his blatant lies is ever permitted to get near enough to shout such a question.

He lives in NYC or commutes in, right? Surely he must go out _sometime_, or has he holed up COVID-style?

You don’t even have to confront him directly. Can you imagine him showing up at a restaurant and half the other patrons leave? “I can’t stand the stench.” After a while, no place will take his reservations.

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