# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 204
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4067 "2022-01-10T19:31:07Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Well, Trump’s never going to support Mike Rounds again! He’s a jerk who “went woke” on the election and Trump doesn’t know if he’s stupid or crazy! > > This one REALLY pissed Trump off. > > [https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-usns9afqyn0](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-usns9afqyn0) I guess I don’t see the strategy, here. I mean, alienating members of your own party can only reduce your number of supporters. Are the GOP going to welcome these RINOs back, pull them out from under the bus and expect their vote? It seems to me this thing is just unraveling. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4068 "2022-01-10T20:24:26Z")
I see what you mean. As the number of folks who support Dear Leader Trump without reservation gets smaller and smaller, and as Trump becomes more and more unhinged, I wonder if there will come a tipping point, where it dawns on people that Trump simply does not have enough supporters, and the (R) politicians will just abandon him _en masse._ as a group. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4069 "2022-01-10T20:43:08Z")
IMO: nope, not really: most of Trump’s supporters are not operating with anything more than a tenuous grasp on reality and the politicians that support _them_ can’t afford to lose their base or they’ll have nothing. Some may do as you say, but they will be a small minority until Trump’s second loss. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4070 "2022-01-10T21:41:41Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > I guess I don’t see the strategy, here. I mean, alienating members of your own party can only reduce your number of supporters. Are the GOP going to welcome these RINOs back, pull them out from under the bus and expect their vote? It seems to me this thing is just unraveling. If people were purely rational, that might be true. But we’re not. Casting one person out of the tribe may decrease its number, but it generates even greater devotion among the chosen who remain. And the one who was cast out may beg to be allowed to work twice as hard as before to atone for his sin so that he be allowed back in. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4071 "2022-01-10T21:48:51Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > and I hereby firmly pledge that he will never receive my Endorsement again! I’m sure that has the Republican senator from South Dakota who is up for reelection in 2026 shaking in his boots. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4072 "2022-01-10T22:35:51Z")
Steve Bannon still carries a torch for Trump, even though he still has permanent tire tread patterns on his face from the bus Trump threw him under. I think at this point, it becomes a badge of honor to go to jail or go broke on behalf of Trump, even if that badge is made from a discarded beer can. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4073 "2022-01-11T00:12:03Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > Depends on _which_ Democratic president is on the table. Harry Truman?–I’d be pretty shocked. > > Zoidberg: Are you coming on to me? > > Harry Truman: By cracky, I take exception to that remark! > > Zoidberg: I’m not hearing a “No…” Heh–power of the subconscious mind. I didn’t remember that quite-classic ep when writing (even though Truman was voiced by my fave Maurice LaMarche). ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4074 "2022-01-11T04:32:29Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > This one REALLY pissed Trump off. Whatever it said, it’s been disappeared. It must have been pretty bad if someone who is still kissing his ass took it down. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4075 "2022-01-11T04:44:17Z")
No, it’s still there….they just changed the link. He doesn’t run a blog any better than he ran the country. Here’s the new one. > **[News | Donald J. Trump For President 2024](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news)** > > Certified Website of Donald J. Trump For President 2024. Text “Trump Whoever runs his pathetic little loser blog is horrifically incompetent - and they sometimes randomly change the url of an article. Or maybe they do it on purpose, as a way to kill all social media links if they are trending negative. I’ve had this happen to his links before. We’ll see how long this one works. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4076 "2022-01-11T05:20:42Z")
I also posted this in the P&E thread about the aftermath of the insurrection: There were folks in court: > **[Trump attorneys cite immunity, want Jan. 6 lawsuits tossed](https://apnews.com/article/elections-lawsuits-donald-trump-election-2020-congress-5cd9c285faf1b08567d565440fcfff5b)** > > Attorneys for former President Donald Trump and his associates argue that incendiary statements by Trump and others last Jan. 6 prior to the Capitol riot were protected speech and in line with their official duties. My favorite part of the article: > [@](#): > > Giuliani lawyer Joseph Sibley at one point stated, “There’s simply no way you can construe the statements that were made by any of the speakers to be an invitation to join a conspiracy to go to the Capitol and commit crimes.” > > Mehta immediately asked, “Why not?” > > The judge then refenced Trump’s own Jan. 6 speech in detail. > > “His last words were ‘go to the Capitol’ and before that it was ‘show strength’ and ‘fight.’ Why isn’t that a plausible invitation to do exactly what the rioters ended up doing?” Mehta asked. ”Those words are hard to walk back.” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4077 "2022-01-11T13:05:19Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > ”Those words are hard to walk back.” Especially since they’re on a sort of downward path towards Trump’s coup. A ramp, if you will. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4078 "2022-01-11T15:07:34Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Giuliani lawyer Joseph Sibley at one point stated, “There’s simply no way you can construe the statements that were made by any of the speakers to be an invitation to join a conspiracy to go to the Capitol and commit crimes.” Does he forget Giuliani saying “it’s time for trial by combat?” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4079 "2022-01-11T15:24:37Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > Giuliani lawyer Joseph Sibley at one point stated, “There’s simply no way you can construe the statements that were made by any of the speakers to be an invitation to join a conspiracy to go to the Capitol and commit crimes.” > > Does he forget Giuliani saying “it’s time for trial by combat?” - Giuliani is better equipped for that than a battle of wits. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4080 "2022-01-11T15:52:24Z")
That declaration, that "there’s simply no way you can construe the statements that were made by any of the speakers to be an invitation to join a conspiracy to go to the Capitol and commit crimes”, is typical for conservatives nowadays: just declare something to be true and inarguable, and hope that nobody calls you on it. And it helps to be in control of the conversation, like by being the host of a talk show where you can simply turn the offending party’s mic off or simply out-shout them. But when you are before a judge, you don’t have that same power, that same control. They forgot that and the fleeting moment was delicious. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4081 "2022-01-11T15:57:17Z")
The Darth Vader school of personnel management. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4082 "2022-01-11T16:27:21Z")
He forgot to mention — _When you catch somebody in a fraud, you’re allowed to go by very different rules._ If only it were true………… - ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4083 "2022-01-11T17:39:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Giuliani is better equipped for that than a battle of wits. With Rudy, everything is relative. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4084 "2022-01-11T23:13:03Z")
You mean like how he married his cousin? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4085 "2022-01-12T02:52:48Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > With Rudy, everything is relative. With Rudy, everything is negative. He is the counterexample to every Law of Conservation. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4086 "2022-01-12T02:57:55Z")
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