# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 205
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4087 "2022-01-12T06:40:06Z")
Just another nice takedown, this time Jamie Raskin throwing a foul-smelling Jim Jordan (you just know - just looking at him - the stench emanating from him must be really strong-ponged) _hard_ down to the mat with a double-leg takedown. And then bag to the nuts. > **[Democrat uses Jim Jordan’s own words against him over 6 January interview...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/democrat-uses-jim-jordan-own-233756156.html)** > > ‘To answer Jim Jordan, I would quote Jim Jordan from the views that he expressed in the final Benghazi report, where he said that all of the truth must come out,’ says Rep Jamie Raskin > [@](#): > > “To answer Jim Jordan, I would quote Jim Jordan from the views that he expressed in the final Benghazi report, where he said that all of the truth must come out,” Mr Raskin told MSNBC’s John Heilemann. “Everybody needs to testify, and nobody’s got the right to hide anything from Congress. So, I think he had it right then. > [@](#): > > Mr Raskin said Mr Jordan, whose questioning of Ms Clinton in 2015 was particularly aggressive, should know better than anyone why Congress has the right to interview witnesses. “Jim Jordan, more than anybody else, knows what a dogged, aggressive investigation is about,” the Maryland Democrat said. “Even when he’s on a wild goose chase, he demands all the information he wants, and we’re not on that. We are on the central investigative mission certainly of this decade, if not this century, to get to the bottom of this terrible political crime that was incited and to a substantial extent organized by Donald Trump.” Funny if, (upon Kevin McCarthy’s demented recommendations) Jordan _did_, somehow, wierdly, manage to cling onto a position in the Jan. 6 committee, and then, whoops! oh darn! he got asked by his own committee to cough up the skinny on his chats with Don. _(Aaaaawww-kwaaaarrrrrrrrd)_ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4088 "2022-01-12T14:16:47Z")
I’m taking my ball and going home! > **[Trump abruptly ends NPR interview after he is pressed on baseless election...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-npr-interview/2022/01/12/a2d0a26e-7397-11ec-bc13-18891499c514_story.html?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjEyNzIwMzMiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjQxOTk2OTI2LCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjQzMjA2NTI2LCJpYXQiOjE2NDE5OTY5MjYsImp0aSI6IjNmYmFmMTY0LTkyOGQtNDhiMy04MjAyLTliZmYzMGFlZTY2NiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy90cnVtcC1ucHItaW50ZXJ2aWV3LzIwMjIvMDEvMTIvYTJkMGEyNmUtNzM5Ny0xMWVjLWJjMTMtMTg4OTE0OTljNTE0X3N0b3J5Lmh0bWwifQ.sRy7bUzPI5tIlMuQu7gC--a-S9D4iKVEslzWoHKXlXI&itid=gfta)** > > The former president hung up nine minutes into what NPR said was scheduled to be a 15-minute interview by “Morning Edition” host Steve Inskeep. > Former president Donald Trump abruptly ended an interview with NPR on Tuesday after he was pressed on his baseless claims of election fraud and repeated contention that the 2020 election was “rigged” against him. > > Trump hung up on “Morning Edition” host Steve Inskeep nine minutes into what NPR said was scheduled to be a 15-minute interview that was broadcast Wednesday… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4089 "2022-01-12T14:20:08Z")
“That’s the kind of temperament we _want_!” shouted idiots everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4090 "2022-01-12T14:34:26Z")
In other kinda-good news: > **[As candidates refuse to disavow McConnell, Trump comes to terms with his grip...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/12/politics/trump-mcconnell-2022/index.html)** > > Donald Trump is facing weak support among Republicans for his calls to depose Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and aides and allies say it's forcing the former President to confront new limitations on his influence over the party. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4091 "2022-01-12T14:36:55Z")
I’d prefer Trump to be beating McConnell. The turtle is actually effective in getting done what he wants, while Donald is mostly just a bull in a china shop. He breaks shit, some of it important, but hopefully doesn’t do any damage that isn’t repairable. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4092 "2022-01-12T14:38:19Z")
Let them fight it out properly. “If both survive the _lirpa_…” ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4093 "2022-01-12T14:59:14Z")
I’m trying to insert the “let them fight” image, but failing ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4094 "2022-01-12T15:00:58Z")
Looking in from the outside, I’d prefer McConnell. While Mitch will be more effective in advancing a conservative agenda, he is much less likely to cause the US to be a right-wing dictatorship on our southern border within my lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4095 "2022-01-12T15:07:26Z")
I haven’t listened to it yet, but the 11-minute audio is included in this article on the NPR website. > **[Pressed on his election lies, former President Trump cuts NPR interview short](https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072204478/donald-trump-npr-interview-presidential-election-lies-vaccines)** > > The former president blasted Republicans who have crossed him and kept up repeated election lies in an NPR interview. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4096 "2022-01-12T16:25:38Z")
If you keep reading down that article, it seems to me to turn from being a news article to being an opinion piece after a while. Kind of a surprise to me, coming from NPR. They are usually pretty scrupulous about the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4097 "2022-01-12T16:28:47Z")
I’ve just listened to the audio. Of course he hung up. Steve Inskeep kept saying Trump was wrong. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4098 "2022-01-12T17:45:55Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Steve Inskeep kept saying Trump was wrong. 😛 Just like all those judges. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4099 "2022-01-12T18:02:21Z")
You mean [“so-called” judges](https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/real-time/President-Trump-lashes-out-at-so-called-judge-on-Twitter-for-blocking-travel-ban.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4100 "2022-01-12T18:02:44Z")
What aspects of it did you find to be more opinion than fact? To me it seemed fairly straight. They do state out right that Trump’s claims of election fraud are baseless, but that’s just accurate reporting avoiding the trap of false equivalence (or maybe its “middle ground” sometimes its hard to categorize fallacies) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4101 "2022-01-12T18:07:06Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > You mean [“so-called” judges](https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/real-time/President-Trump-lashes-out-at-so-called-judge-on-Twitter-for-blocking-travel-ban.html)? link without screen-blocking pop-up: > **[Trump lashes out at judge who put his travel ban on ice](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-travel-ban-legal-win-234634)** > > The president is confronting the most serious setback of his young administration. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4102 "2022-01-12T18:46:18Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > They do state out right that Trump’s claims of election fraud are baseless Blatant pro-fact bias. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4103 "2022-01-12T19:13:16Z")
“I’da won the election if it hadn’t been for those meddling voters!” ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4104 "2022-01-12T19:20:31Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > was watching Ancient Aliens this afternoon - History Channel conspiracy shows are a guilty pleasure of mine - and some “ancient alien researcher” (their term for crackpot) was playing some interview clip of fucking Fucker Carlson acting all outraged because he thought Trump knew more than he admitted to about alien visitations. Jeeze. You really do live up to your username, don’t you? We should all send you some cute kitten videos, just as an antidote. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4105 "2022-01-12T21:45:53Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > What aspects of it did you find to be more opinion than fact? I said more opinion that news. I’m not disputing the truth of anything (that I remember reading) in that article, but there are a lot of sweeping generalizations that reference one instance or fact to back them up. The author is explaining how Trump’s influence within the party works, thereby assuming that his readers needed an explanation, but then not backing it up with very much. Oh, there are a couple of examples here and there, but they don’t match the scope of the assertions and generalizations. Maybe it’s more a question of style, but it almost feels like all the readers are so much on the same page that evidence is no longer required, it’s something we all “know”. I don’t want my news sources to write that way, that easy path is part of what divides the country. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4106 "2022-01-13T02:27:41Z")
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