# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 222
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4427 "2022-02-07T18:43:15Z")
When has he done something mature? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4428 "2022-02-07T18:50:59Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > In the late-'70s dad and I were flying his Cessna from northern Los Angeles County down to San Diego. The smog was so thick that at one point we couldn’t see the ground from 10,00 feet. - 1987, I was in the L.A. area for a truck driving school. More than once, the CHP was running traffic breaks because the smog was so thick. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4429 "2022-02-07T21:39:58Z")
In Denver, in the '70s you couldn’t see the mountains to the west because of what what called the brown cloud. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4430 "2022-02-07T21:53:08Z")
I’m constantly impressed by LA’s improved air quality. It’s one of the few tangible signs that we are doing some things right, environmentally. When the first Spaniards sailed into Santa Monica Bay, 350 years before the invention of the automobile, they named it “Bahía de los Fumos” ; The Bay of Smoke. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4431 "2022-02-07T22:02:50Z")
Yeah, the inversion layer means that any kind of smoke collects in the basin. I can remember days in elementary school when we had to stay in during recess because of smog. I haven’t seen it that bad since the early 70s. If there’s the least amount of fog, it hangs forever. Not as bad as the tulle fog but I can remember once returning home from a very late night at work and having to drive about 10 mph down Jefferson Blvd in Culver City because I couldn’t see 10 feet in front of my car. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4432 "2022-02-07T22:06:45Z")
No doubt. The geography of the L.A. Basin guaranteed that any smog would congregate there and hang on like (pardon the phrase) grim death, unless a Santa Ana wind blew it out. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4433 "2022-02-07T22:43:50Z")
You guys kvetching about the LA smog in the 80s and 90s don’t even know how much worse it was in the decades prior to that. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4434 "2022-02-07T22:48:43Z")
Oh, trust me, I remember L.A. in the 70’s. Sometimes, it was so bad that Orange County schools issued “no playing outside” warnings. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4435 "2022-02-07T23:09:08Z")
I lived in Lomita in the sixties. That’s about 15 miles south and west of LA. Back then, if you got a good rain it would knock enough smog out of the air to let you see the mountains to the east. It had to be a hard rain that cleared completely at the end and let the sun through. Lomita was close enough to the ocean that the daily evening sea breeze kept the local air quality pretty fair. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4436 "2022-02-08T04:33:46Z")
My biggest continuity issue with Quentin Tarantino’s latest film, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, was how clean the air constantly was. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4437 "2022-02-08T04:41:48Z")
In fairness, most of the film takes place in February when there was a good chance you could actually see the mountains back in the 1960s. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4438 "2022-02-08T08:06:50Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > You guys kvetching about the LA smog in the 80s and 90s don’t even know how much worse it was in the decades prior to that. Hear, hear. I went to high school in La Habra (Orange county) 1964 to 1968 and I remember sitting in the library and watching the smog drift across the quad. Prior to that, circa mid-50s to when we moved, we’d drive from Phoenix to LA and every year as we topped Chiriaco summit the brown cloud had crept further and further west of Indio. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4439 "2022-02-08T09:15:57Z")
Well this is pretty cool, Schadenfreude-wise. This bank CEO tried to ingratiate himself with the Trump team by offering loans to the campaign, through Paul Manafort, in return for a position with the administration. The Trump campaign got the money, the guy got an interview, but never got a job. Probably because he wasn’t judged to be sufficiently fawning and ingratiating. Needless to say, the Trump campaign defaulted on the loans, the bank lost the money, the jackass was fired, and now he’s going to jail for a year for bribery, and afterwards has to pay a $1.25 million fine and do 800 hours of community service as part of his supervised release after his jail term. Kind of a variation on the old theme of “everything that Trump touches turns to shit” – even when it’s the thing itself that reaches out and touches Trump. > **[Stephen Calk: Banker sentenced to prison for bribery scheme in chase for...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/07/politics/stephen-calk/index.html)** > > A former Chicago bank executive was sentenced to one year and one day in federal prison Monday for conspiring with one-time Donald Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort to exchange risky bank loans for a high-ranking position in the presidential... ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4440 "2022-02-08T15:02:31Z")
In similar news, indicted Trump crony Tom Barrack ( one of Trump’s longtime pals, Trump, Jeffrey Epstein and Tom Barrack used to be known as The Three Musketeers….of _something_) tried to get the federal charges dismissed on the grounds that the prosecutors waited until Trump was out of office to prosecute him, thereby depriving him of the pardon he was rightfully entitled to. Link below is gifted > **[Indicted Trump Ally Says Prosecutors Stalled Case Until After Election](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/nyregion/thomas-barrack-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DMDm0biOIEGYWP-kDLIrZjYN46xHGRTcVbObQsAeBo0-pHeUxxTg3i6r21pKM4GQRn44SiQjFxmJvXQbEz9TKtNzXncr9xmO365ByLYX3tWaGOzSZyIQh6optucVmg2CQNlqjFAfc1joclpYopD5B_QjgGZCmY7bK_W1glZoLwPlyL4RI2WupZRTjTgdeWjroGewlUAljCJ2httSd-sJgPfYNKY9usakIoa8H8gr4OC2Z3LI7PB5A5Q4XclboCoqeE7RunFdDIz5G09Tq48Wfn&smid=url-share)** > > Thomas J. Barrack Jr., who is charged with illegally lobbying then-President Donald J. Trump, suggested that the delay in his prosecution was politically motivated. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4441 "2022-02-08T18:55:21Z")
Give backhanded credit where it’s due-they’re really exploring new vistas of legal BS none of us have seen before (hopefully). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4442 "2022-02-08T18:57:14Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > In similar news, indicted Trump crony Tom Barrack ( one of Trump’s longtime pals, Trump, Jeffrey Epstein and Tom Barrack used to be known as The Three Musketeers….of _something_) tried to get the federal charges dismissed on the grounds that the prosecutors waited until Trump was out of office to prosecute him, thereby depriving him of the pardon he was rightfully entitled to… This absurd argument has officially made my day. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4443 "2022-02-08T19:03:56Z")
This is an even better legal definition of chutzpah than the orphaned parricide. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4444 "2022-02-08T20:17:15Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > This is an even better legal definition of chutzpah than the orphaned parricide. Our laws against killing parrots are too wishy-washy as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4445 "2022-02-08T20:45:37Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > In similar news, indicted Trump crony Tom Barrack ( one of Trump’s longtime pals, Trump, Jeffrey Epstein and Tom Barrack used to be known as The Three Musketeers….of _something_ ) tried to get the federal charges dismissed on the grounds that the prosecutors waited until Trump was out of office to prosecute him, thereby depriving him of the pardon he was rightfully entitled to. I have no idea how judges don’t laugh in the faces of lawyers at times like these. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4446 "2022-02-08T21:24:49Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I have no idea how judges don’t laugh in the faces of lawyers at times like these. It’s their job to take every argument seriously, until proven invalid? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=221) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=223)