# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 227
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4527 "2022-02-14T19:15:45Z")
They just call it filibustering. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4528 "2022-02-14T20:32:31Z")
Boo f(&^%$g hoo Mitch. You had his balls in your hand not once, but twice, and you could have twisted them right off. Weak, sniveling coward. Well, compared to Ted Cruz, you’re a bastion of courage. A bar so low that worms butt their heads. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4529 "2022-02-14T21:40:25Z")
Truly. The time to have those meetings was January 7, 2021, not more than 400 days later. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4530 "2022-02-14T21:50:58Z")
[https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/14/politics/trump-mazars/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/14/politics/trump-mazars/index.html) Breaking News: > Former President Donald Trump’s long-time accounting firm informed the Trump Organization last week that it should no longer rely on nearly 10 years of financial statements and that they would no longer be their accountants citing a conflict of interest. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4531 "2022-02-14T21:53:47Z")
It’s welcome news, but I find it hard to believe that they know something now that they didn’t know then. Way back then. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4532 "2022-02-14T21:54:02Z")
Nice. Is a “non-waivable conflict of interest” lawyer’s code for “I don’t want to go to jail”? ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4533 "2022-02-14T21:59:06Z")
Not as satisfyingly delicious as Trump’s accountants dumping him or blatant panic in the GOP ranks, but still tasty: [Palin’s libel lawsuit against the NYT dismissed by a federal judge](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-dismisses-palins-libel-lawsuit-against-new-york-times/ar-AATQNdr?ocid=uxbndlbing). Admittedly this ruling’s timing is weird. It comes as the jury is deliberating. I’m not sure I’ve heard of a judge dismissing a case that’s already gone to a jury. Not sure what that means if the jury finds in her favor. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4534 "2022-02-14T22:05:12Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > It’s welcome news, but I find it hard to believe that they know something now that they didn’t know then. It’s not what they know now, it’s what they now realize: the water has been getting hotter and there’s a turtle in the soup. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4535 "2022-02-14T22:15:11Z")
You can read their actual letter here: > A “non-waivable conflict of interest” could mean a couple of different things. It could mean they have an entanglement with another client who has relied upon Trump’s fraudulent books and the accountants have chosen to take their side. It could mean Trump has threatened legal action against the accountants and they’re pulling up anchor and leaving. It’s all speculative until we get more information. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4536 "2022-02-14T22:15:28Z")
Is it reasonable to assume that they are now going to cooperate fully, and will still have access to a lot of the records that the prosecution is seeking? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4537 "2022-02-14T22:29:42Z")
Don’t know about cooperation, but with the release of this letter, Trump effectively has no access to _legitimate_ capital, excepting that raised by continuing operations (i.e., the email grifts). Mazars has told the world: 1. Trump’s financials cannot be trusted. 2. … because of information provided by the NY AG on January 18th, 2022. 3. (Implication being that the NY AG has credible evidence of fraud and criminal wrongdoing.) 4. They try to weasel by saying the statements, in toto, are likely correct… it’s just the details that are worrisome. lololol. 5. It ain’t our fault! Look! We did an internal review and everything! 6. Regardless, given all this, we just can’t work with you. There are some conflict issues, Donnie, and you’re just a little _too_ hot. The ‘nonwaivable conflict of interest’ line sticks out to me. The nonwaivable conflict of interest is not with another, more valuable, client, the conflict is with the _law!_ The legal issues are the conflict of interest, that’s why they’re unwaivable! 😂 The NY AG has them dead to rights, and Mazars is saying ‘uh, to survive as a firm, we can’t declare ourselves to be on the side of the criminals.’ And they’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4538 "2022-02-14T23:09:22Z")
George Conway translates the legalese: > > > Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT My addendum: > “information from internal and external sources” = people who’ve seen the real books flipped on you ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4539 "2022-02-14T23:54:18Z")
Mazars wasn’t obligated to verify the data Trump was giving them. They were filing tax returns, not performing an audit. Basically it appears that Letitia James has shown them proof that some of the numbers Trump Org. was providing were bullshit. They have a professional responsibility to let everyone know that they have received conflicting information. Spare your sympathies for Mazars, who got in bed with a known sleazeball, but this is another strike against Trump Org. and no one else. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4540 "2022-02-15T00:51:42Z")
What are the odds running that one of the kids flips? They have to know that the ship is sinking rapidly. Who will be the one to cut a deal? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4541 "2022-02-15T01:27:56Z")
Neither of the boys has the balls to go against Daddy. It’ll have to be the ice queen. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4542 "2022-02-15T01:29:46Z")
That would be my guess as well. Eric is too stupid to flip and Junior is too coked up to even think such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4543 "2022-02-15T01:34:17Z")
And Jared may be willing to cut a deal if it involves keeping prying eyes out of his own family’s nefarious dealings. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4544 "2022-02-15T03:44:01Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > A “non-waivable conflict of interest” could mean a couple of different things. It could mean they have an entanglement with another client who has relied upon Trump’s fraudulent books and the accountants have chosen to take their side. It could mean Trump has threatened legal action against the accountants and they’re pulling up anchor and leaving. It’s all speculative until we get more information. There’s a biggie you are missing. The conflict of interest is highly likely to be between their interest to Trump as a client, and _their own interest_ as a firm. If their interests as a firm are to take (or not take) certain steps to protect themselves, and Trump’s interests are to the contrary, that is not likely to be waivable. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4545 "2022-02-15T04:55:53Z")
Could it be Tiffany? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/4546 "2022-02-15T05:23:27Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Neither of the boys has the balls to go against Daddy. It’ll have to be the ice queen. . . . who also may not have the balls. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=226) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=228)