# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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If someone does everything Trump would have done, but doesn’t get or seek his endorsement, does it matter?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5408 "2022-05-25T15:55:01Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> "They” can get your information.

I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5409 "2022-05-25T16:22:29Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Time to start the rumor mill that that box’s _real purpose_ is so “They” can get your information.

It is.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5410 "2022-05-25T16:25:27Z")

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Spread it! We need a good meme-maker to make this sound really sinister, and share it all over social media. 🤡

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5411 "2022-05-25T17:01:19Z")

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If only someone on the Dope wasn’t 841,967th in line to get on Truth social where they could spread share that rumor God’s honest truth.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5412 "2022-05-25T20:37:59Z")

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Still less repetitive than _Small Town._

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5413 "2022-05-25T23:02:05Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> For November, Taylor says there will be a change: The voter ID field that so many voters missed will be [highlighted by a big red box](https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/forms/pol-sub/6-15f.pdf).

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Spread it! We need a good meme-maker to make this sound really sinister, and share it all over social media. 🤡

No meme created yet, but surely it’s trivial to imply that the RED color means COMMUNISM!!!1!!!

Just say the ink is made from bamboo and you’re good to go.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5414 "2022-05-26T18:34:00Z")

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Ha-ha!

> **[Trump loses appeal, must testify in New York civil probe](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-loses-appeal-must-testify-152306826-154118624.html)**
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> Former President Donald Trump must answer questions under oath in New York state’s civil investigation into his business practices, a state appeals court ruled Thursday. A four-judge panel in the appellate division of the state’s trial court upheld...

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5415 "2022-05-26T18:49:26Z")

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When the shitty Trump crime family invokes the 5th over and over again (which they surely will), I hope the opposing counsel is allowed to ask the following:

Mr. Trump, did you yourself give the following statements:

“You see the mob takes the Fifth,If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

“Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.”

Did you say these things? Yes or no?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5416 "2022-05-26T18:53:43Z")

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I’m sure a judge would consider it irrelevant to the case. Unfortunately.

Then again, all it would do is establish the well-documented fact that Trump is a hypocrite, and wouldn’t be that helpful.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5417 "2022-05-26T19:01:24Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’m sure a judge would consider it irrelevant to the case. Unfortunately.

First, you can still ask it in a deposition, even if it might be excluded at trial.

Second, perhaps it is relevant . If a witness thinks only guilty people take the fifth, and they invoke it, then it’s evidence of consciousness of guilt.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Second, perhaps it is relevant . If a witness thinks only guilty people take the fifth, and they invoke it, then it’s evidence of consciousness of guilt.

I like the cut of your jib.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5419 "2022-05-26T19:37:50Z")

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As do I!

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5420 "2022-05-26T19:52:12Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> If a witness thinks only guilty people take the fifth, and they invoke it, then it’s evidence of consciousness of guilt.

I can certainly see someone raised on crime dramas who believe that only guilty people take the fifth, until one day they find themselves in a legal quandary where they need to.

It would be evidence of ignorance, not necessarily guilt.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5421 "2022-05-26T19:53:32Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> [Trump loses appeal, must testify in New York civil probe](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-loses-appeal-must-testify-152306826-154118624.html)

Trump never had any appeal to me, so there was no appeal to lose.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5422 "2022-05-26T19:58:53Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I can certainly see someone raised on crime dramas who believe that only guilty people take the fifth, until one day they find themselves in a legal quandary where they need to.

I agree, I was just trying to come up with an argument.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Trump never had any appeal to me, so there was no appeal to lose.

Banana loses a peel, then I eat it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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Bananas aren’t toxic.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5425 "2022-05-26T21:55:45Z")

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Tell that to my ex-girlfriend and her [latex allergy](https://www.healthline.com/health/banana-allergy), bananas would really make her sick.

Just like Trump makes people sick. I think decent folks are allergic to him.

Also, bananas are sometimes used (tongue-in-cheek) as a [unit of measurement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose) for radioactivity, which also seems appropriate.

Finally, Trump can be described as being bananas, though he’s more orange than yellow.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5426 "2022-05-26T23:07:02Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> When the shitty Trump crime family invokes the 5th over and over again (which they surely will), I hope the opposing counsel is allowed to ask the following:
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> Mr. Trump, did you yourself give the following statements:
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> “You see the mob takes the Fifth,If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
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> “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.”
> 
> Did you say these things? Yes or no?

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> First, you can still ask it in a deposition, even if it might be excluded at trial.
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> Second, perhaps it is relevant . If a witness thinks only guilty people take the fifth, and they invoke it, then it’s evidence of consciousness of guilt.

These are wonderful ideas that we should all promote with vigor in every venue available to us.

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