# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 272
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5427 "2022-05-27T02:17:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … Did you say these things? Yes or no? “I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may intimidate me.” It’s Fifth Amendment all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5428 "2022-05-27T02:43:05Z")
Missed the edit window. > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > “I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may **intimidate** me.” in_crimin_ate 😵‍💫. But as it stands it’s not altogether inaccurate. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5429 "2022-05-27T02:47:13Z")
I prefer the original ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5430 "2022-05-27T11:30:05Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > First, you can still ask it in a deposition, even if it might be excluded at trial. > > Second, perhaps it is relevant . If a witness thinks only guilty people take the fifth, and they invoke it, then it’s evidence of consciousness of guilt. In a criminal proceeding the judge would almost certainly smack you down hard, but (and IANAL here) in civil trials I believe one can make an adverse inference from someone pleading the Fifth, and you could probably get away with asking about his previous statements on the subject as long as you didn’t spend much time belaboring the point. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5431 "2022-05-27T11:44:27Z")
The very first thing that Trump should be asked under oath is about his memory. He loves to brag that he has a great memory. Then start asking him about taking the 5th and other things that he has ‘forgotten’. He is pretty much guaranteed to perjure himself. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5432 "2022-05-27T13:28:17Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > He loves to brag that he has a great memory. Can you person, woman, man, camera, TV? I didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5433 "2022-05-27T20:22:36Z")
“Mr. Trump, are you able to show us how an idiot takes the 5th?” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5434 "2022-05-27T20:47:48Z")
Ooo, I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5435 "2022-05-27T20:48:50Z")
‘Mr. Trump, a criminal says what?’ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5436 "2022-05-27T20:49:44Z")
“Objection!” “I’m gonna allow it.” ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5437 "2022-05-29T18:55:52Z")
[Trump loyalist who lost Georgia governor primary with just 3.4% of the vote is refusing to admit defeat (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-loyalist-who-lost-georgia-governor-primary-with-just-3-4-of-the-vote-is-refusing-to-admit-defeat/ar-AAXQk5y?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5c13cb5cdd104e9e999ef7c9458c8f42) Go fuck yourself. You are blaming other Republicans and Trump loyalists for your ass-kicking. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5438 "2022-05-29T19:04:00Z")
While not needed in the Pit, when I see stuff like @Typo_Negative brought up, it makes me wonder. Do the ass-kicked ass-hats actually believe any of what they’re saying, or is it 100% playing to the crowds to further the grift / get talking head job / get appointed to think tank. I’m positive that it’s large majority profit motivation amongst the political branch, but I wonder about some of them, like Lindell… Sorry, back to well earned pittings. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5439 "2022-05-29T19:09:03Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Trump has your back. It’s to keep you in place as the bus crushes you. I’m sorry to be critical, but this was a rather awkward metaphor, when it should _obviously_ have been: When Trump has your back, expect it to be stabbed. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5440 "2022-05-29T19:36:32Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Do the ass-kicked ass-hats actually believe any of what they’re saying, or is it 100% playing to the crowds to further the grift / get talking head job / get appointed to think tank. It can’t be both? I mean, Perdue had CFSG’s endorsement while she was just a “loyalist” – what did she expect? I’m wondering what a “national data team” is. I’m guessing Cyber Ninjas. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5441 "2022-05-29T19:58:24Z")
Nothing saying it can’t be both, but for a lot of the minions, it seemed 100% ride the bandwagon and grift (especially when they’ve taken 180 degree turns from prior positions just to do so). But others seem to, much like their sponsor keep going long after the point it is likely counterproductive to earning (Lindell and Powell as examples). So are they now 80% invested in their new alternate reality and 20% grift? 70/30? Not that I excuse any of them at this point, but the degree of my disgust does vary a bit based on motivations. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5442 "2022-05-29T20:35:48Z")
[Trump was ‘stunned’ by Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s Republican primary victory: report (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-was-stunned-by-georgia-secretary-of-state-brad-raffensperger-s-republican-primary-victory-report/ar-AAXRnfW?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ccc259fb566e49d0874207bd82d28257) Maybe hope for the GOP? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5443 "2022-05-29T20:37:58Z")
Maybe not: [Political career may be done for McCrory after loss (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/political-career-may-be-done-for-mccrory-after-loss/ar-AAXQwx2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ccc259fb566e49d0874207bd82d28257) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5444 "2022-05-29T20:56:52Z")
There may be no bottom: [‘Soulless’: Trump Torched For Dance At NRA Event After Reading TX Shooting Victims’ Names (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/soulless-trump-torched-for-dance-at-nra-event-after-reading-tx-shooting-victims-names/ar-AAXQSJB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7fabd0f233104cf994ead6636bb7f0c0) ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5445 "2022-05-29T21:02:10Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > ‘Soulless’: Trump Torched For Dance At NRA Event After Reading TX Shooting Victims’ Names ([msn.com](http://msn.com)) My initial reaction to the NRA not cancelling their convention was “they’re coming to dance on the graves of 19 fourth graders”. I didn’t think it’d be so literal… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5446 "2022-05-29T21:34:06Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > > [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > > > ‘Soulless’: Trump Torched For Dance At NRA Event After Reading TX Shooting Victims’ Names ([msn.com](http://msn.com)) > > My initial reaction to the NRA not cancelling their convention was “they’re coming to dance on the graves of 19 fourth graders”. I didn’t think it’d be so literal… - You can see him how happy this all makes him. > **[Trump sparks outrage as he dances after reading names of 21 shooting victims](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-sparks-outrage-dances-27088726)** > > Former US President Donald Trump danced to Sam and Dave's 1966 song Hold On, I'm Comin' after reading out the names of the 21 people killed by Salvador Ramos at Robb Elementary School, in Uvalde, Texas [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=271) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=273)