# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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I can’t imagine he’d choose Melania over Ivanka, but really I don’t believe he really cares about anyone else much at all.

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I don’t think I’ve seen this posted yet:

> **[D.C. bar files ethics charges against Rudy Giuliani](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/10/dc-bar-launches-ethics-charges-against-rudy-giuliani-00038977)**
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> The case focuses on Giuliani’s efforts to push unsubstantiated fraud accusations for Donald Trump in a Pennsylvania court.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5609 "2022-06-11T21:55:58Z")

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Reading the headline I figured that he got caught trying to feel up a waitress at a Georgetown tavern.

Apparently it was the other sort of bar.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5610 "2022-06-12T00:19:35Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Reading the headline I figured that he got caught trying to feel up a waitress at a Georgetown tavern.

I thought he hadn’t paid his tab.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Apparently it was the other sort of bar.

Lawyers patronize both sorts. You can’t always tell the difference.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5611 "2022-06-12T18:20:32Z")

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Really? Not a _former_ GOP’er, then?  
Oh well - will get primaried, then.

> **['I hope he doesn't run again': GOP Rep. Tom Rice, who voted to impeach Trump...](https://www.businessinsider.com/tom-rice-trump-impeachment-republican-past-primary-2022-6)**
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> "I hope he doesn't run again," the congressman said of a potential 2024 Trump bid. "And I think if he does run again, he hurts the Republican Party."

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> “To me, his gross failure — his inexcusable failure — was when it started,” the congressman said of the insurrection…“He watched it happen. He reveled in it. And he took no action to stop it. I think he had a duty to try to stop it, and he failed in that duty…He’s the past. I hope he doesn’t run again. And I think if he does run again, he hurts the Republican Party.”

Wish discourse coulda done four-comma elipses to indicate omitted breaks between sentences. Oh wells 🤷‍♂️Cartman

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5612 "2022-06-13T18:53:44Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Guns don’t kill people. Bullets kill people.

Guns don’t kill people. Bullets don’t kill people. Having little, bleeding holes in their bodies kills people!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5613 "2022-06-13T18:56:22Z")

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We are all victims of physics

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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And chemistry.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5615 "2022-06-13T20:55:35Z")

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Or, going further old school - crossbows don’t kill people, quarrels do.

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If they weren’t all woke socialist nanny-state libruls, they wouldn’t bleed to death!!

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5617 "2022-06-14T08:07:08Z")

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The orange shit-stain appears to be running scared in light of the ongoing Jan 6 Committee revelations. He’s issued a 12-page attack on the Committee, calling them traitors and liars – wow, talk about projection!

[https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/06/13/raskin-trump-trashes-january-6-committee-sot-ebof-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/06/13/raskin-trump-trashes-january-6-committee-sot-ebof-vpx.cnn)

The orange shit-stain’s manifesto doubles down once again on the Big Lie, wherein he easily won the 2020 election but those dastardly Democrats ruined it all for him. It contains many remarkable passages, like this one:

> Highly respected True the Vote’s Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips showed the nation exactly what the Democrats’ illegal ballot trafficking scheme looks like. They spent years investigating election crimes, and their hard work provided America with the indisputable proof so many had been waiting for. True the Vote cooperated with Dinesh D’Souza to produce the blockbuster documentary _2000 Mules_, which provides video evidence of the ballot trafficking scheme Democrats have created.

“Highly respected”! Right! “True the Vote” is **[a scam organization run by scam artists](https://revealnews.org/article/true-the-vote-big-lie-election-fraud/)** which has actually done nothing except collect donations and use them to enrich themselves. Dinesh D’Souza of course is a known far-right provocateur and conspiracy-theory lunatic, and the “documentary” has been thoroughly debunked, and discredited even by most conservatives. The amazing thing about all this is the sheer extent of the rot and corruption that constantly surrounds Trump like a putrid lingering stench.

> **[A Big Lie in a New Package (Published 2022)](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/29/us/politics/2000-mules-trump-conspiracy-theory.html)**
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> A new documentary from Trump allies makes the latest case the election was stolen, but the group behind the claim has been assailed even by some on the hard right.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> He’s issued a 12-page attack on the Committee

Was it written in Sharpie with about six words per page, or did somebody else write it for him?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5619 "2022-06-14T12:04:48Z")

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That is pretty much what I was thinking. He’s probably never written a 12 page paper in his life. I’d also wonder if he has read one that long…

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I’d also wonder if he has read one that long…

“So what does it say? This better make me look good.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5621 "2022-06-15T01:55:03Z")

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So, uh, Lauren Boebert was a hooker who very possibly had Ted Cruz as a client and he was the one who suggested she run for Congress.

Oh, and she has had two abortions.

[https://twitter.com/TonyMichaelsPod/status/1536770773850787841?t=UAgY32jwjPFOr7aFkzKOpQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/TonyMichaelsPod/status/1536770773850787841?t=UAgY32jwjPFOr7aFkzKOpQ&s=19)

This is the same group that torpedoed Cawthorn - they targeted Boebert about a month ago:

> **[PAC that posted Madison Cawthorn video now aims to ‘fire’ Lauren Boebert](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-pac-fire-cawthorn-fire-boebert-20220519-4a6nogscirdkdpr6ob4cbhuu4e-story.html)**
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> FireBoebert.com is seeking video, photos of documents that could embarrass the Colorado congresswoman

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> > embarrass the Colorado congresswoman

Is that even possible?

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Is that even possible? -

A video of her _giving_ someone money would do it.

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@JohnT 's Twitter link doesn’t work for me. This seems (despite the MySpace quality of the website) to be the official location of the info:

> **[Boebert Abortions | FireBoebert.com](https://www.fireboebert.com/boebertabortions)**
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> Lauren Boebert was a paid escort for a Koch family member. She met Ted Cruz through this Koch client.

I have no opinion on whether it’s real or not (including, whether it’s really from the Muckrakers).

The woman seems to have tattoos, including a tramp stamp. If Boebert is innocent, one easy thing she could do is let AOC or someone check her lower back for tattoos - including letting them wipe the spot, to ensure that there’s no makeup.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5625 "2022-06-15T03:42:59Z")

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I mean, I suppose you could consider it “easy,” but I dunno, that still feels like an awfully invasive thing to do, _especially_ if she was innocent.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5626 "2022-06-15T04:23:27Z")

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Yeah, I despise Boebert but I don’t think it’s her responsibility to disprove these allegations, especially not by submitting her bare back for inspection concerning tattoos. Especially not for inspection by a political opponent, who I hope would find the idea as revolting as I do.

I have no way of knowing whether these allegations about Boebert are true. As with various similarly sordid allegations about sexual misbehavior by Donald Trump, all I know is that there is nothing in the uniformly loathsome character of the accused that would make the allegations in any way implausible. But the fact that they’re in no way implausible doesn’t prove that they’re true.

If they are true, that raises the question of Boebert’s husband’s involvement. In 2004, when Lauren Boebert (then Roberts) was 17, [Jayson Boebert (aged 24) did jail time first for indecent exposure and then for domestic violence against Lauren.](https://www.salon.com/2021/08/31/lauren-boeberts-husband-did-jail-time-for-lewd-exposure-in-a-bowling-alley-she-was-there/) After the end of his probation in 2007 for the exposure conviction, the two were married.

So AFAICT, the Boeberts were dating or married during the entire time during which it’s alleged that Lauren had her abortion(s) and worked as an escort. Given that AFAICT she had her four sons in 2004, 2007, 2009, and 2013 or thereabouts, it sounds like a pretty busy life even without the alleged sex work and abortions. (Mind you, there are of course plenty of young wives and mothers who do sex work and get abortions with or without their husband’s knowledge.)

But either way, I personally don’t happen to care whether Boebert has had an escort career or an abortion. And even the hypocrisy implied by the abortion allegation can’t really do much to further degrade her deserved reputation as a lying grifting hypocritical lawless deranged piece of shit.

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