# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 291
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5807 "2022-07-05T19:25:18Z")
LOL, pretty sure he carries a list of non-extradition treaty countries in his grubby hand everywhere he goes. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5808 "2022-07-05T20:14:57Z")
There’s also the question of what use he’d still have for Daddy Vladdy (beyond the entertainment value of seeing if he actually follows an instruction to sit by the window and drink a cuppa tea). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5809 "2022-07-05T20:43:58Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Aspenglow](#): > > > > But Trump will leave the country before that happens, I think. > > And he’d lay low for a while until investigators follow the trail of Diet Cokes and Big Macs. No big macs available in Russia anymore. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5810 "2022-07-05T21:23:09Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > But Trump will leave the country before that happens, I think. I wish, but since it’s so damn political, even as a flight risk, he’ll be allowed house arrest. And he’ll drop dead of overconsumption or spite long, long before he runs out of appeals. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5811 "2022-07-05T22:01:57Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I think Fani Willis is in the end stages of her Atlanta investigation. In general, any successfully executed subpoena may lead to testimony and any testimony may lead to new subpoenas, ad nauseum. I believe that the grand jury was only seated fairly recently so this might be their first set of subpoenas. I assume that Willis has done some investigating already but I would expect that this is really the start of the serious portion of the investigation. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5812 "2022-07-05T22:07:31Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I believe that the grand jury was only seated fairly recently so this might be their first set of subpoenas. It was seated in May. I believe those are the first subpoenas we’ve heard about, but there could have been others that didn’t make the news. Reminder, this is a Special Grand Jury, which in Georgia, can’t indict. Just make recommendations. But I expect the prosecutor can take any recommendations and get immediate indictments from an ordinary grand jury. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5813 "2022-07-05T22:40:14Z")
[And apparently, what they do have ain’t so great.](https://www.newsweek.com/mcdonalds-russia-vkusno-mold-bugs-burger-1721715) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5814 "2022-07-06T04:37:01Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > LOL, pretty sure he carries a list of non-extradition treaty countries in his grubby hand everywhere he goes It’s an addition to the football he had around when he was President. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5815 "2022-07-06T09:56:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > but I’m not holding my breath. _Aquaman_ couldn’t hold his breath that long. On the one hand, I blame the media partly for this sense or resignation and fatalism. On the other, it seems logical. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5816 "2022-07-06T12:49:45Z")
And thus far, warranted by past experience. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5817 "2022-07-06T15:30:59Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > On the one hand, I blame the media partly for this sense or resignation and fatalism. What should they be doing differently? For myself, I am not able to maintain the level of outrage and anger that seems to be required for current events. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5818 "2022-07-06T18:48:52Z")
I remember reading with horror as a child about how killer whales would harass a regular whale, bumping it until it was exhausted and it would loll on the surface letting them _eat its tongue_. I couldn’t understand how it ever let that happen no matter how exhausted it was. I don’t wonder so much, now. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5819 "2022-07-06T18:54:46Z")
They are never getting my fucking tongue. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5820 "2022-07-06T18:59:21Z")
Sure, you say that _now_. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5821 "2022-07-06T19:00:33Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > They are never getting my fucking tongue. - Easy. Don’t swim with killer whales. Except for Ellen James. She’s safe. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5822 "2022-07-06T20:21:05Z")
Trump’s WH counsel Pat Cipollone has been subpoenaed by the Jan. 6 Committee, and is going to testify in a closed session. > **[Former White House counsel Cipollone to testify before Jan. 6 committee](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/06/jan-6-trump-white-house-counsel/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics)** > > Pat Cipollone will testify Friday after a subpoena from the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack, according to people familiar with the matter. > Cipollone had been reluctant to testify to the committee, citing presidential privilege, but he has been regularly mentioned in the hearings and is key to a number of episodes being plumbed by the committee. > > The committee issued the subpoena last week after blockbuster testimony from a former aide, Cassidy Hutchinson, identified the lawyer as having firsthand knowledge of potential criminal activity in the Trump White House. > > The decision followed extensive negotiations between Cipollone and the committee, as well as sharply escalating pressure on him in recent days to testify. Committee members have come to believe that the former counsel’s testimony could be critical to their investigation, given his proximity to Trump and presence during key moments before, during and after the attack on the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5823 "2022-07-06T20:26:49Z")
We are going to run out of Secret Service agents to protect people. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5824 "2022-07-06T20:46:28Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Trump’s WH counsel Pat Cipollone has been subpoenaed by the Jan. 6 Committee, and is going to testify in a closed session. I wonder if Trump is going to talk shit about him on his so-called “social” media platform as the testimony is played back over on the video screens. Kidding! I’m not wondering. More like expecting. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5825 "2022-07-06T20:50:21Z")
“Never met the man, don’t know him. Maybe we passed in the hall a few times but that was it. My lawyer? I’ve got lots of lawyers, the best. I think I turned him down for a job. Sad.” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5826 "2022-07-06T20:58:21Z")
Just a brief point of clarification: I’ve no doubt Trump would say stupid shit like this, but Pat Cippollone was _never_ Trump’s lawyer. At least, he wasn’t supposed to be. He was the White House counsel – meaning his job was to protect the Office of the President of the United States. Not pledge fealty to the writhing mass of filth slithering around in the Oval Office. That’s why Cippollone’s claims of executive privilege are complete bullshit. Cippollone was a shameful failure at doing the job he swore an oath to do. I’ve read he was a ditto head, so no surprise there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=290) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=292)