# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 295
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5887 "2022-07-10T21:28:29Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > So…does a former president even have the power to claim or waive executive privilege for one of his ex-employees? It’s up to… Wait for it… **THE SUPREME COURT!** > **[Trump’s Claim of Executive Privilege in the Jan. 6 Inquiry, Explained...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/us/politics/trump-executive-privilege.html)** > > A new lawsuit by the ex-president and a move to hold Stephen Bannon in contempt of Congress are raising untested issues about secrecy powers. > While the Constitution does not mention this secrecy power, the Supreme Court has recognized it as implicit in the founding charter. > The constitutional line between a president’s secrecy powers and Congress’s investigative authority is hazy, with few Supreme Court guideposts. Historically, such disputes have usually been resolved through compromise, not judicial rulings. > In a 1977 case challenging a law related to the control of White House files from the then-former Nixon administration, the Supreme Court said Nixon could make a claim of executive privilege even though he was out of office. > > “We reject the argument that only an incumbent president may assert such claims, and hold that appellant, as a former president, may also be heard to assert them,” the court wrote. > In the 1977 case challenging the law about control of Nixon-era White House files, the Supreme Court noted that his successors — Gerald R. Ford at an earlier stage in the case, and Jimmy Carter by the end — did not support his claim. And despite saying Nixon was permitted to assert executive privilege as an ex-president, the court ruled against him. > > Still, the court also suggested that Nixon might be able to block the release of some of his papers in the future. Nixon never sought to do so, however, and there has not been a Supreme Court case over access to specific information that involves an executive privilege disagreement between a current president and a predecessor. Who the fucks knows? Maybe. Especially with this 5-4 right wing court. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5888 "2022-07-10T21:31:37Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > While the Constitution does not mention this secrecy power Like abortion rights? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5889 "2022-07-10T21:34:03Z")
That’s true. The Constitution does not explicitly give the President the right to have an abortion. I’m sure that’s of great personal comfort to Trump ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5890 "2022-07-10T21:34:31Z")
Yep, hence my last sentence. 😦 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5891 "2022-07-10T22:08:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Who the fucks knows? Maybe. Especially with this 5-4 right wing court. Correction. It’s a 6-3 right-wing court. It’s a 5-4 collection of unhinged lunatics – Thomas, Alito, and the Three Merry Trumpsters. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5892 "2022-07-10T22:10:18Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’ll bet the clerks at his local liquor store have heard it far more often. Naw, that would be Giuliani. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5893 "2022-07-10T22:24:05Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Correction. It’s a 6-3 right-wing court. It’s a 5-4 collection of unhinged lunatics – Thomas, Alito, and the Three Merry Trumpsters. Jesus, and who do we have to stand against them and their Frat Boy Minions? The cast of ‘Stranger Things’ and the music of Metallica? ( I’m sure that even if the whole crew smoked the Pizza-van Weed, my ugly ass would get a Real hard pass…) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4kVJqWfD4Hw/maxresdefault.jpg "Metallica - Master of Puppets (High Quality)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kVJqWfD4Hw) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5894 "2022-07-10T23:29:11Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Bannon has agreed to testify! (NYT gift link) > [@romansperson](#): > > Agent Orange is desperate to see someone on the TeeVee defend him during the public portion of the J6 hearings. Doesn’t sound like that is going to happen (quoted from the NYT article posted above): > > > Should Mr. Bannon ultimately appear for an interview, he would give his testimony behind closed doors like hundreds of other witnesses have done, Ms. Lofgren said. The committee has carefully choreographed its public hearings to make a streamlined presentation of its case, and has worked to avoid public sparring sessions with witnesses. Sure, both Bannon and Trump would love the circus of Bannon “testifying” on live TV…but as romansperson posted, that’s not going to happen. Some speculation holds that Bannon doesn’t even expect to be called for closed-door testimony. The entire “willing to testify” thing is pure theater, intended to demonstrate to the court (in his upcoming criminal trial for contempt of Congress) that he is “cooperative” and a great guy and should be given all kinds of leniency. I guess the schadenfreude here is that Steve Bannon is scared enough to go to some effort to try to project a fake ‘cooperative’ image. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5895 "2022-07-10T23:36:53Z")
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when he’s actually given a date and time to show up. I’d REALLY like to be there when he’s being questioned. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5896 "2022-07-10T23:51:31Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I guess the schadenfreude here is that Steve Bannon is scared enough to go to some effort to try to project a fake ‘cooperative’ image. I hope he never sleeps again. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5897 "2022-07-11T00:04:13Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > I guess the schadenfreude here is that Steve Bannon is scared enough to go to some effort to try to project a fake ‘cooperative’ image. > > I hope he never sleeps again. - He looks like that _with_ sleep? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5898 "2022-07-11T00:07:31Z")
I only know Bannon from youtube clips and stuff like that. From what I’ve seen of this, con man in his own right, psychopath, he is going to have zero to add to any fucking thing. Zero as it concerns reality. Conspiritorial, paranoid, Land Of Make Believe myth- He’s got a buttload. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5899 "2022-07-11T00:11:30Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/oFLFicWRBs8/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump & Bannon collude in an attempt to give Bannon a bogus defense to his criminal contempt charges") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLFicWRBs8) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5900 "2022-07-11T00:21:41Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Conspiritorial, paranoid, Land Of Make Believe myth- He’s got a buttload. From the looks of Bannon, that infected buttload has been spreading for years. (One look at him and even Penicillin says “Yikes…!” ) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5901 "2022-07-11T00:22:59Z")
The alcohol bottle screams: “Just pour it in your mouth, don’t actually touch it to your lips!” ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5902 "2022-07-11T01:49:49Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I hope he never sleeps again. I’ve heard it can be really noisy in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5903 "2022-07-11T02:47:41Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > (One look at him and even Penicillin says “Yikes…!” ) _Lovely_ description (did you come up with that?), and maybe the best, since hearing about [Donald Sterling’s face](https://www.google.com/search?q=donald+sterling&rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA835CA835&sxsrf=ALiCzsb5gTDi26mK_leNya6_723zC079cw:1657507579181&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiax-Dz6O_4AhUrJTQIHUM9B5QQ_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=789&bih=574&dpr=1.56) looking it just ate Mike Wallace’s. (which I believe is from Jon Stewart) (or possibly the deranged Sid Sixeiro) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5904 "2022-07-11T06:19:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He looks like that _with_ sleep? Apropos of nothing, now I wonder if he layers on two or three sets of pajamas the same way he wears three or four dress shirts for some unfathomable reason. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5905 "2022-07-11T09:43:33Z")
He secretly read Vogue back in the 80’s and believed the model, who weighed 89 1/2 pounds, when she opined about how layers was slimming. I think I read that somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5906 "2022-07-11T14:44:41Z")
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