# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5987 "2022-07-14T20:26:39Z")

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So well said.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5988 "2022-07-14T20:30:50Z")

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Ivana Trump has died at 73.

> **[Ivana Trump, first wife of Donald Trump, is dead at 73](https://www.npr.org/2022/07/14/1111579480/ivana-trump-dead-obituary)**
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> Ivana Trump, the first wife of former President Donald Trump, has died at the age of 73, the Trump family confirmed in a statement.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5989 "2022-07-14T20:47:01Z")

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Will the ex-president be joining her soon? I’m sure the funeral parlor could get the estate a nice group rate…

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5990 "2022-07-14T21:39:07Z")

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I misread that as “Ivanka” and honestly froze for moment. I bet she’s got some stories.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5991 "2022-07-15T00:02:48Z")

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Sure. I’m sure that if Ivana & Ivanka had put their heads together, they’d both have some stories.

\< Enter Satan played by Gabriel Byrne \>

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5992 "2022-07-15T00:22:21Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The Manhattan DA, yes, **but the NY AG is still at work**. I have some hope on that front.

Well, maybe not. Or at least such action, along with the depositions scheduled for tomorrow, may be postponed…indefinitely? We shall see.

Why?

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ivana Trump has died at 73.  
> [Ivana Trump, first wife of Donald Trump, is dead at 73 : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2022/07/14/1111579480/ivana-trump-dead-obituary)

my bolding in quote

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5993 "2022-07-15T01:21:14Z")

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Individual 1 put out a post about Ivana, and ended it with a link for donations for him.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5994 "2022-07-15T01:24:01Z")

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He didn’t. That was from an email his PAC sent out (and I hate defending him in any way, please don’t make me do this again.)

> **[Did Trump Fundraise in Email About Death of Ex-Wife Ivana?](https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/07/14/ivana-trump-email-donate/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0TULDFxr2OaxHsoMaM-TNu1I4jfrD0yGE0WCNp2QVSqA88gDpWBUZ5N6A#Echobox=1657840053)**
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> NBC News journalist Andrea Mitchell tweeted that an email statement from the former president about the death of his ex-wife Ivana was being used for fundraising.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5995 "2022-07-15T04:29:03Z")

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> [@Capn\_Carl](#):
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> So well said.

I cribbed it from some place.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5996 "2022-07-15T05:21:56Z")

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Everything you typed after “His one skill is marketing” shows to me that he sucks turds at that, too.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5997 "2022-07-15T12:16:47Z")

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Here’s your free lesson about marketing - incredibly and maybe unbelievably, it’s easier to sell to people who have already decided to buy your product!

Get a bunch of older, whiter, conservative, racist, poorly educated, mainly rural voters and hold up a mirror to them and they’ll credit you for your remarkable acumen and insight and buy whatever you’re selling

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5998 "2022-07-15T18:47:48Z")

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The latest from the Peach State:

> **[Exclusive: Fulton County DA sends 'target' letters to Trump allies in Georgia...](https://www.aol.com/news/exclusive-fulton-county-da-sends-152517098.html)**
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> Fulton County, Ga., District Attorney Fani Willis has sent so-called target letters to prominent Georgia Republicans informing them they could be indicted for their role in a scheme to appoint alternate electors pledged to former President Donald...

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/5999 "2022-07-16T23:28:00Z")

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Dudes who pepper-sprayed cops on Jan 6 get 44 months in prison.

> **[N.Y. men who pepper-sprayed officers on Jan. 6 sentenced to 44 months](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/15/mattice-mault-capitol-riot-sentenced/)**
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> The men led the first wave through police barricades, then body-surfed to a Capitol entrance to cause more mayhem.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6000 "2022-07-16T23:44:48Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Dudes who pepper-sprayed cops on Jan 6 get 44 months in prison.

And they apologized, but I think the apologies were totally insincere.

> “I was very stupid and ignorant, and I lost myself that day,” Mattice said through tears. “And I’m extremely embarrassed.”
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> “My friends and I went to the Capitol on Jan. 6 with the best intentions,” Mault said. “What happened was our protest got terribly out of hand, I fell into the mob mentality, and I didn’t think about what I was doing.”

Yet…

> Text messages obtained by the FBI showed that Mattice and Mault planned for violence on Jan. 6, initially expecting resistance from antifa. They texted family members during the mayhem, and then congratulated each other in the days after the riot, which temporarily halted the certification of the presidential election.

> Mattice was a stay-at-home dad and Mault was an iron worker when they began texting on Jan. 2 about driving to President Donald Trump’s “Stop the Steal” rally on Jan. 6, discussing taking pepper spray, helmets, a baton and a high-powered fire extinguisher with them. Once in D.C., court records show, Mattice recorded video of Mault on the National Mall saying they were “getting ready to go march on Capitol Hill. … It’s about to be nuts.”

Fucking liar. You did not go with the best of intentions. You went intending to do violence, and that’s what you did. You didn’t “fall into the mob mentality”, you led the fucking mob by your own admission.

> During this time, Mattice texted his fiancee to say, “me and james literally just got everyone to push, I fought off like 4 or 5 cops and we stand … victorious,” according to court records.

I hope this ruins their lives forever.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6001 "2022-07-17T02:37:18Z")

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How long do you think “44 months” translates into, in real life?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6002 "2022-07-17T03:05:24Z")

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My favorite part of this story is those traitors cried when the judge told them their fate.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6003 "2022-07-17T03:17:39Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> My favorite part of this story is those traitors cried when the judge told them their fate. -

Quite a shock considering they were expecting to taste liberal tears.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6004 "2022-07-17T03:24:42Z")

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The judge got it right.

> She noted that even after Mattice and Mault were aware of the impact of the riot, “they maintained some form of delusional belief that they were the patriots.”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6005 "2022-07-17T03:33:04Z")

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> How long do you think “44 months” translates into, in real life?

My guess: About half, so 20 - 24 months.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6006 "2022-07-17T09:21:06Z")

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They were kind of correct, though. I laughed so hard, I cried.

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