# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 301
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6007 "2022-07-17T15:56:00Z")
> [@Karen\_Lingel](#): > > How long do you think “44 months” translates into, in real life? In the federal system, the maximum “good time” credit you can get is 15%. So, you can knock off about 6 months. They might also be eligible to transition to a work release facility (halfway house) for the last few months of their incarceration. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6008 "2022-07-17T16:18:25Z")
The arrest, conviction, and incarceration follow for life. They’re best chance for future employment is as a RepubliQuan congressional aide. /s ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6009 "2022-07-17T17:17:23Z")
It’ll look great on a resume! Just get your wanted poster printed on a t-shirt? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6010 "2022-07-17T18:07:12Z")
From whatever day they enter prison to January 21st 2025, probably. Unless we are lucky. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6011 "2022-07-17T18:59:55Z")
Now, hold on a moment here – how likely is it, really, that the Orange Menace would bother pardoning any of the January 6 frontline troops if he got back to the Oval Office? What use would they be to him? Why bother? You know he’s the very definition of a one-way street. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6012 "2022-07-17T19:01:52Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > It would piss off the libs, which is what his base loves most. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6013 "2022-07-17T19:07:20Z")
That’s enough for his base, but he doesn’t give a shit about his base, either. He could have pardoned all of those Jan 6 nutjobs before leaving office and the thought didn’t even cross his mind. Unless there’s something in it directly for him, they’re screwed. “I didn’t know them” “I heard they used to work for Sleepy Joe” “They got some screws loose” He doesn’t like being associated with losers and a conviction makes them losers in his book. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6014 "2022-07-17T19:22:01Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > He doesn’t like being associated with losers and a conviction makes them losers in his book. That’s also why he couldn’t accept **being** a loser. (And post 6,000! Woot!) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6015 "2022-07-17T19:34:59Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Unless there’s something in it directly for him, they’re screwed. “I didn’t know them” “I heard they used to work for Sleepy Joe” “They got some screws loose” He doesn’t like being associated with losers and a conviction makes them losers in his book. But he did grant executive clemency (simply to piss off the libs, as **F.U.S.** stated) to 239 individuals, some of whom, I’d wager, Don would regard as losers. I’ll say his sense of vindiction (lib-baiting) is way stronger than his sense of vanity (worrying about who he might be associated with, or helping out, or what he could get out of them). ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6016 "2022-07-17T20:10:31Z")
When these traitors and criminals get out of prison. The only people that will hire them are the people that got them in prison in the first place. Going to be like Hedley Lamar looking for desperados to destroy Rock Ridge. It’s going to be rinse and repeat. Vote everyone. Vote. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6017 "2022-07-17T21:08:44Z")
Preach it! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6018 "2022-07-17T21:59:34Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Going to be like Hedley Lamar looking for desperados to destroy Rock Ridge. They better not chew gum on line! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6019 "2022-07-17T23:16:34Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Now, hold on a moment here – how likely is it, really, that the Orange Menace would bother pardoning any of the January 6 frontline troops if he got back to the Oval Office? What use would they be to him? Why bother? You know he’s the very definition of a one-way street. The counter-arguments to Trump pardoning the 1/6 perps are good. But it’s also the case that if Donald does get into the Presidency again in January 2025, there will still be a few people in office throughout the nation who believe in democracy. Not just Democrats, but Republicans such as Arizona state-House Speaker Russell Bowers (who testified at the hearings). Trump is going to need people willing to take up arms for him to eliminate all such inconvenient persons. And he’ll get those busses-headed-to-state-capitals (as well as D.C.) filled more easily if he has already pardoned the 1/6 crew—and, ideally, celebrated them in a big televised ceremony, awarding them medals and such. So, I think he might very well bestir himself to issue those pardons. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6020 "2022-07-17T23:23:47Z")
That assumes he’s capable of strategic thought. After this many years, it should be clear there’s no “there” there. If he does issue such pardons, it won’t be due to some well thought out plan to dismantle democracy but due to some short term gain he needs. The concept of delayed gratification is incomprehensible to that buffoon. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6021 "2022-07-17T23:25:55Z")
He’ll pardon them since he’ll want to use them to cement his rule. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6022 "2022-07-17T23:31:47Z")
What? A couple hundred losers? The concept of “cementing his rule” doesn’t exist in his mind either. Once he’s in, he has toadies (military, civil service, whatever). He doesn’t need to issue pardons to anybody to have thousands more willing followers. People give him way too much credit for thinking ahead. Now, if these folks had a couple million to buy their freedom on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6023 "2022-07-17T23:33:01Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > That assumes he’s capable of strategic thought. Whether Donald thinks of it himself or Roger Stone or Mike Flynn suggest it to him is immaterial. (The old chestnut ‘Trump is too stupid to do this thing being speculated’ has _not_ aged well at all.) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6024 "2022-07-17T23:35:30Z")
I think he’ll do it (pardon everyone associated with January 6th) because it fits into his narrative of the “the REAL crime was the stolen election. The righteousness of the January 6th insurrectionists is already a big theme at his rallies, and if he runs again he’ll be promising those pardons on the campaign trail. And he’s already signaled that if he gets into office again, he won’t be putting up with the likes of Pat Cippollone and Eric Hershman and Bill Barr and people he perceives as not being completely loyal and subservient to him personally. I think he’ll pardon everyone as soon as he gets back in, if he does. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6025 "2022-07-17T23:38:47Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (The old chestnut ‘Trump is too stupid to do this thing being speculated’ has _not_ aged well at all.) Sure it has. Look through these threads over the last 6 years. Always giving him too much credit for actually thinking. Not one that gave him such credit has held up well. He’s too dumb for strategic thought, but that doesn’t mean he can’t do terrible things. You don’t need to play 254th dimensional chess to win against an intelligent, thoughtful foe. You just need to be willing to cheat and have people willing to back you up. It’s an understandable shortcoming of intelligent, well-intentioned people, but they are just as likely as anybody else to fall into the trap of the ‘great man fallacy’. He may well end up pardoning all these people, but it won’t be part of a grand scheme. It’ll be because somebody whispers in his ear that his ratings will go up or that he can charge people $1000 a pop to attend a rally where he announces it or some other reason that inflates his bank account or his ego. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6026 "2022-07-17T23:41:37Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think he’ll do it (pardon everyone associated with January 6th) because it fits into his narrative of the “the REAL crime was the stolen election. The righteousness of the January 6th insurrectionists is already a big theme at his rallies, and if he runs again he’ll be promising those pardons on the campaign trail. … Yeah. The 1/6 perps are only faceless mooks to Donald as individuals. But we know that he gloried in their _collective_ action: the overall picture of Hundreds Willing To Die (and Kill) For Him\* was utterly delightful to him. He wants to encourage more of that sort of thing. People rising up to make him P-For-Life? _YES_, please! > \*We’ll be learning details of the way he expressed that delight in just a few days: 8pm (EDT) on Thursday, 21 July. Be there; will be wild! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=300) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=302)