# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 305
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6087 "2022-07-25T18:40:57Z")
That kind of thing certainly deserves YouTube immortality. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6088 "2022-07-25T18:47:00Z")
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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6089 "2022-07-25T19:26:21Z")
“Four legs good, two legs _better_!” ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6090 "2022-07-25T21:17:23Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I’ve never heard the term before and am wondering why “carpet bagger” would not serve. Just a wild guess, carpetbagger is someone who moves to a place to gain a political seat. GOP clamed this for Hillary Clinton when she ran in NY. This guy has never lived, and still doesn’t live, in the place he’s running for office. Like a guy that lives in Texas running for governor of Oklahoma. Hence, a newly formed word. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6091 "2022-07-25T21:42:02Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Like a guy that lives in Texas running for governor of Oklahoma. Hence, a newly formed word. What’s wrong with “Asshole”? A perfectly good descriptor. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6092 "2022-07-25T22:01:06Z")
I’m fine with asshole. Where do we vote for the change? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6093 "2022-07-26T01:40:58Z")
The Perfect Master, commenting on the [myriad spellings of the former Libyan leader’s name](https://www.straightdope.com/21341687/how-are-you-supposed-to-spell-muammar-gaddafi-khadafy-qadhafi): > I say we just call him Duckbreath. It’s short, it’s easy to spell, and Lord knows it satisfies the soul. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6094 "2022-07-26T02:32:49Z")
I’m a little confused. Carpetbagger isn’t a new word. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6095 "2022-07-26T02:59:39Z")
The question is about ‘carpet dredger’. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6096 "2022-07-26T08:43:39Z")
It was just the way @mordecaiB phrased it it sounded to me as if they hadn’t heard the term before. But upon rereading I understand what they were saying. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6097 "2022-07-26T08:50:06Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I say we just call him Duckbreath. It’s short, it’s easy to spell, and Lord knows it satisfies the soul. This Dope column has been cleaned up for the kiddies! Originally, Cecil wrote: “I say we just call him Asshole…” ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6098 "2022-07-26T10:37:27Z")
That makes a lot of sense, as Duckbreath is not short, has a diphthonge and does not remotely rhyme with soul. Asshole is much better. As for cleaning up for kiddies, I think many people underestimate what kiddies know, read and say. They have forgotten, I guess. Now, back to the Schadenfreude: > **[Republicans Confront Unexpected Online Money Slowdown](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/online-fundraising-republicans-democrats.html)** > > In an otherwise favorable political climate, small-dollar donations have dropped for Republicans, making the party more reliant on megadonors to compete. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6099 "2022-07-26T13:42:49Z")
I’m all in with **carpet dredger.** A perfectly cromulent term. Bagger is too nice, like the high school kid at the supermarket. It also works in Pennsylvania with Oz and Georgia with Walker. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6100 "2022-07-26T13:45:41Z")
But, but, it makes no sense. The carpet bagger is briefly visiting a district with their luggage, a bag made of carpet. They’re not swooping in to bag all the carpet to win votes. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6101 "2022-07-26T14:10:58Z")
True, but I think it works well. Metaphorical language (which is almost the same as just saying “language”) often shifts in this way. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6102 "2022-07-26T16:15:03Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Now, back to the Schadenfreude: > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/online-fundraising-republicans-democrats.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/online-fundraising-republicans-democrats.html) This is very interesting and is probably going to be hard for them to reverse. It seems that the well has finally just about run dry. Even die hard MAGAs at this point have got to be feeling the donation fatigue afgter being inundated with requests for 6 years straight without any off year lull. A lot of them are probably feeling that they have already done their part, and need to start saving their cash in preperatoin for $7 gas prices and $12 milk that they hear about on Fox News. Usually the solution would be to ramp up the rhetoric, but its already been turned to 11 for years. I also don’t know that relying on big donors is going to bail them out. The frat cats like tax cuts and all, but I don’t think they are quite so keen on a culture war, that targets their consumers and dictatorships are generally not good for business. Who knows, maybe now that the Republicans are on the losing side of the money game, now would be a good time to revisit campaign finance reform. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6103 "2022-07-26T17:32:40Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I also don’t know that relying on big donors is going to bail them out. The frat cats like tax cuts and all, but I don’t think they are quite so keen on a culture war, that targets their consumers and dictatorships are generally not good for business. They might not be keen on a culture war, but they’re more than willing to ignore the culture war if it gets them the tax cuts and all. Trump didn’t care one whit about overturning Roe v. Wade; he just wanted to make sure that the court was packed with people that would stamp out “overreach” on regulations. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6104 "2022-07-26T17:43:19Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Trump didn’t care one whit about overturning Roe v. Wade; he just wanted to make sure that the court was packed with people that would stamp out “overreach” on regulations. 100% Roe v Wade is not going to affect _them_. They have ‘wink, wink’ ways around them. Any multi-millionaire does. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6105 "2022-07-26T19:00:53Z")
Or any Republican Federal or statewide officeholder. But I repeat myself. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6106 "2022-07-26T20:50:54Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Trump didn’t care one whit about overturning Roe v. Wade Trump didn’t care one whit about anything the supreme court might do, except that it got him cheers at his rallies. He just picked from the top of the list that McConnell gave him. The only other aspect he cared about was an misguided assumption that assumption that since they “owed” him they would look the other way in case he did something of questionable legality. But to my larger point I was talking about > **[Opinion | It’s time for America’s CEOs to ditch the GOP](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/gop-culture-war-causing-big-business-to-turn-to-democratic-party-rcna28375)** > > Republicans' push to erode the rights of marginalized communities is pushing America to the precipice of the biggest political realignment in nearly 100 years. and > **[Business titans pull back from GOP after Capitol insurrection](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/11/business-titans-gop-capitol-insurrection-457901)** > > The split between the GOP and business is widening after some Republicans voted against Electoral College certification after last week's riot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=304) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=306)