# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/601 "2021-01-26T01:18:34Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > … But I don’t believe that Dominion Voting Systems qualifies as even a limited public figure because, AFAICT, they took no actions that would’ve had the predictable effect of putting them in the public eye. They were just running their perfectly legal business in the same way as they always had when a bunch of trolls decided to ruin their name as part of a political stunt from which they profited. … That all sounds reasonable. And, in fact, I can’t think of any case involving a business suing because their business reputation was attacked, in which the question of whether the business was “fair game” due to being “a public figure” even arose. Not that I’m any expert, but there seems to be a fundamental difference between a person’s reputation and a business entity’s reputation. The latter is a dollars-and-cents asset, after all. Dominion’s voting machines are not a side-line; they are the whole business. Giuliani and the Fox News hosts (and others) said flat out that the company’s products were defective to the point that they were useless for the purpose for which they’d be purchased. So that’s the entire value of the business at stake. Aside from wanting to see Giuliani held accountable for his atrocious conduct, I’d really like to see the Murdochs pay a price for their choice to run a business based on profiting from lies. And the only kind of price they’d understand is one that empties their pockets. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/602 "2021-01-26T01:59:39Z")
To engage in a little pleasant fantasy… …wouldn’t it be absolutely _delicious_ if this and other lawsuits related to the election fraud scheme bankrupted every single right-wing media outlet…Fox, NewsMax, Fox Business, OANN, all the dumbass radio shows and podcasts, all of them… OK, I know that’s way too much to hope for, but it would be the ultimate addition to the _“Everything Trump Touches Dies”_ Hall of Fame. Oh, please let this kill Fox News. Maybe Mike Bloomberg can buy it on the cheap. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/603 "2021-01-26T02:43:23Z")
I recall an episode from way, way back when DJT was the guest judge on MasterChef or some such show. They prepared an elegant, high-end steak; it looked delicious. His only comment was “it needs a sauce”, as if a high-end steak could be improved by some ketchup. That’s the first time I decided (well before the election) that he didn’t know what he’s talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/604 "2021-01-26T02:59:03Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Dominion’s voting machines are not a side-line; they are the whole business. Giuliani and the Fox News hosts (and others) said flat out that the company’s products were defective to the point that they were useless for the purpose for which they’d be purchased. They said worse than that. They said that Dominion was participant in a fraud against the voters of Georgia and others. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/605 "2021-01-26T04:01:44Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Fox has a ready answer. They (lawyers) have previously argued that \*ucker Carlson, Hannity, etc… should not be held to a standard of truth. The average Fox viewer should know that these aren’t “facts” that are being presented. In any case, is the above argument ever a meaningful defense in a libel case? (Aside from the likely fact that the average Fox viewer is probably provably too stupid to know that these aren’t “facts” that are being presented?) ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/606 "2021-01-26T08:29:26Z")
[Google stops donations to U.S. Congress members who voted against election results](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-corporate-google-idUSKBN29V0EW?taid=600fcf885a2f6200019319f3) > (Reuters) - Alphabet Inc’s Google said on Monday it will not make contributions from its political action committee this election cycle to any Congress member who voted against certifying the results of the presidential election. > Earlier this month, following the violent storming of the U.S. Capitol, the tech giant had paused all political contributions to reassess its policies toward political contribution. > “Following that review, the NetPAC board has decided that it will not be making any contributions this cycle to any member of Congress who voted against certification of the election results,” a Google representative said in a statement. Republicans appear to be considered bad for business, these days - or at least, for corporate image. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/607 "2021-01-26T08:40:35Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > …wouldn’t it be absolutely _delicious_ if this and other lawsuits related to the election fraud scheme bankrupted every single right-wing media outlet…Fox, NewsMax, Fox Business, OANN, all the dumbass radio shows and podcasts, all of them… Fox has a market cap of $19 billion, so unfortunately it’s not going out of business from this. But Herring Networks / OANN is tiny - they could be at risk if this case has legs. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/608 "2021-01-26T14:09:26Z")
If you want to insult the Chef, reach for A1. If you want to insult the world, reach for ketchup. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/609 "2021-01-26T14:17:15Z")
To be fair, ketchup goes well with well-done steak. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/610 "2021-01-26T14:23:20Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > To be fair, ketchup goes well with well-done steak. - So does shoe polish. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/611 "2021-01-26T14:43:06Z")
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?height=294&width=400&href=https://www.facebook.com/Gianfranco.Chiarini/videos/dont-ask-for-salt-the-salt-insult-episode/10152997535460382/ ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/612 "2021-01-26T14:49:53Z")
Everyone has their preferences, but as a Chef myself, I find it annoying when people reach for the salt before they have even tasted it. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/613 "2021-01-26T17:57:26Z")
The de-trumpifying of America continues… > **[Trump Plaza in Florida: Condo board votes to dump Trump name after Capitol siege](https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/business/2021/01/26/trump-plaza-name-florida/6699588002/)** > > More fallout for Trump: Trump Plaza condo board votes to dump Trump name from West Palm Beach condo following Capitol insurrection ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/614 "2021-01-26T20:38:59Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10152997535460382) Brief synopsis please. Some of us don’t do Facebook (unless it’s Cat on Roomba videos). ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/615 "2021-01-26T20:49:10Z")
It’s a skit where a guy gets chewed out by the chef for asking for salt. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/616 "2021-01-26T20:54:22Z")
And then there’s people who get annoyed if you _do_ taste the dish before deciding how much salt to add, on the theory that you should have trusted them to put the perfect amount of salt in it for the average person, and that you are only adding more because you like more salt than average. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/617 "2021-01-26T21:10:29Z")
Well… > **[My Pillow CEO banned by Twitter](https://thehill.com/policy/technology/535817-my-pillow-ceo-banned-by-twitter/)** > > Twitter has permanently suspended My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell’s account following his continued unproven claims of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. Twitter sa… I recommend that Trump followers look at options… > **[Schadenfreude Next 20 Miles Throw Pillow by David Sipress](https://condenaststore.com/featured/schadenfreude-next-20-miles-david-sipress.html?product=throw-pillow)** > > Schadenfreude Next 20 Miles Throw Pillow by David Sipress. Our throw pillows are made from 100% spun polyester poplin fabric and add a stylish statement to any room. Pillows are available in sizes from 14" x 14" up to 26" x 26". Each pillow is... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/618 "2021-01-26T22:08:15Z")
Over on Newsmax the butthurt is widespread about the MyPillow guy. “They’re banning people just for expressing an opinion on the election!”. When the “opinion” is to overthrow the government then yes, yes they are. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/619 "2021-01-26T22:11:14Z")
I looked all over Youtube for that clip. It was the first thing I thought of, too. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/620 "2021-01-27T00:43:54Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > They said worse than that. They said that Dominion was participant in a fraud against the voters of Georgia and others. True. Dominion seems to have an excellent case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=32)