# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Trump Signed The Law That May Have Turned Him Into A Felon
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dP2HQyi4a8&ab\_channel=FarronBalanced](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dP2HQyi4a8&ab_channel=FarronBalanced)
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> It can’t get any more schadenfreude-y than that. -

And we already know what he looks like in orange.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > I know. It’s truly appalling to me that a significant portion of the population is openly and delightfully supporting Putin and his war on a country I believe we count as an ally.
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> Same as it ever was:
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> [1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden)

Chillingly recreated in this recent HBO miniseries: [The Plot Against America (TV Mini Series 2020) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9308346/)

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Is it possible that all of this trouble he seems in (Georgia election tampering, Jan 6 commission and DOJ investigation, New York fraud case, documents seized by warrant) is just a sign of things catching up to him? I’d like to think this was inevitable and he and/or his people knew it.

In a word… yes.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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DeJoy is not out, but he has been neutered:

> <https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1557759885693042689?t=HpOo0af3obBmuWGR-qtOXA&s=19>

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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Good. I hope he is assigned to an office with no windows, where his job is to inspect packages that are suspected of containing rotten meat products.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Seems fair to me.

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From [here](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/garland-trump-statement-doj):

> Mr. Garland also said he personally approved the decision to seek the warrant.

That oughta send them into a tizzy.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump is obsessed with finding out if there is a mole in his inner circle, if his phones are tapped or if visitors are wearing a wire.
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> > One Trump adviser tells _Rolling Stone_ that since Tuesday, MAGA loyalists have been asking to pass their suspicions to Trump, telling him not to trust certain individuals and to investigate them for possible contacts with federal authorities. “I’m getting a lot of messages saying [things like], ‘This guy must be the informant,’ and others…calling for the [former] president to start doing phone-checks of his staff,” says the adviser. “To be honest, a lot of it feels like people trying to screw over the ones they don’t like [in Trumpworld.]”
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> [Trump Asks Allies: Who’s ‘Wearing a Wire,’ Who's Snitching to the FBI?](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-snitches-rats-1395609/)

Sounds like they’re turning it into a real witch hunt.

_Joe has a nicer office than me._ “Joe’s the mole!!!”

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Well, that’s the kind of people he attracts. Schemers looking out for themselves.

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Sounds like they’re turning it into a real witch hunt.

I’d use a different metaphor.

It’s getting hard to count how many scorpions are in that bowl.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I hope he is assigned to an office with no windows, where his job is to inspect packages that are suspected of containing rotten meat products.

I hope they take away his red Swinline stapler too.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> DeJoy is not out, but he has been neutered:

To be fair, the most likely explanation (IMHO) for why Trump was failing to secure the 2020 election and trying to convince his voters to not use mail was because he thought he could convince DeJoy to lose or delay the mail through the election season, using the pandemic and “technology upgrades” as excuses.

DeJoy (I assume) resisted that and did his job, serving the American people. (Granted, partially under pressure by Congress.)

He does have relevant experience to his role and may genuinely be doing a tough but necessary job improving the quality of the USPS. And that may mean doing things like cutting poor workers, automating work, etc.

Having oversight is good but that should be fair oversight, not USPS union bosses, telling him that the system has to stay old and crusty.

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> DeJoy (I assume) resisted that and did his job, serving the American people. (Granted, partially under pressure by Congress.)

More likely DeJoy realized that he didn’t really have the power to stop the mail without it being really really obvious. I mean what’s he going to do, send a memo to the Philadelphia branches saying don’t deliver ballots?

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Donald Trump is not a man who believes that there’s a level of public shame too great to get in the way of winning.

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> > DeJoy (I assume) resisted that and did his job, serving the American people. (Granted, partially under pressure by Congress.)
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> More likely DeJoy realized that he didn’t really have the power to stop the mail without it being really really obvious. I mean what’s he going to do, send a memo to the Philadelphia branches saying don’t deliver ballots?

IIRC DeJoy ordered high speed sorting machines destroyed in a number of major mail sorting facilities in order to slow down/disrupt mail delivery. If that’s not “really really obvious” then I don’t know what is.

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Donald Trump is not a man who believes that there’s a level of public shame too great to get in the way of winning.

Both accurate and elegantly put. Nice.

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> They’ll do to some random low level FBI agent what they did to those election workers in Georgia. They’ll comb the tapes until they see a guy pull his phone from his pocket and set it down on a table, or something similar….and they’ll claim the guy was planting evidence. They’ll spread his name around and he’ll have to go into hiding…..this will be an object lesson for all current and prospective FBI agents…..which is part of the long game.

Oh, yes. Make anyone, in any job, contemplating doing the right thing fear that they will be persecuted for doing so.

When no one upholds the law, lawbreakers rejoice.

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump is obsessed with finding out if there is a mole in his inner circle, if his phones are tapped or if visitors are wearing a wire.

This is pure speculation, but I’ve seen some advancing the view that some members of the Secret Service have been stung by the publicity the service has received in the wake of the ‘destroy evidence’ phone-wiping story.

So, the theory goes, one of them decided to spill the beans on what he or she knew to be top-secret stuff Trump had squirreled away at Mar-a-Lago in direct defiance of promises made to both the National Archives and the DOJ that he’d turned all that stuff over to them.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Is it possible that all of this trouble he seems in (Georgia election tampering, Jan 6 commission and DOJ investigation, New York fraud case, documents seized by warrant) is just a sign of things catching up to him?

This is speculation coming just from me (or at least I haven’t seen anyone else voicing it): the recent photos from the LIV golf event showing Donald without makeup—and looking genuinely _awful_—were released in order to support an upcoming story that ‘he died.’

Meanwhile he’s actually off to Saudi to live in whatever golden palace they’ve prepared to house/display him…

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> recent photos from the LIV golf event showing Donald without makeup—and looking genuinely _awful_—were released

I don’t know why those photos were released, but seeing them finally explained to me why trump wears such awful-looking makeup that does nothing for him. He has an _incredible_ amount of sun damage! Must not have been using adequate sunscreen and hats while doing all that golfing.

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> … Must not have been using adequate sunscreen and hats while doing all that golfing.

A guy who stared directly at the sun during an eclipse, in defiance of all common sense–and, no doubt, _many_ warnings–is not going to lower himself to use sunscreen.

Just because them pointy-headed scientists say so is no reason to do anything!!1!!!

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Secret Service agents are sworn law enforcement officers. If they witness a crime, they are duty-bound to report it.

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