# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Secret Service agents are sworn law enforcement officers. If they witness a crime, they are duty-bound to report it. -

They’re duty-bound not to destroy evidence, too.

At this point we have no justification for ruling out the possibility that _some_ SS agents have decided their loyalty is to something other than the oath they took. (For example: to the ‘cause’ of white supremacy.)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> This is speculation coming just from me (or at least I haven’t seen anyone else voicing it): the recent photos from the LIV golf event showing Donald without makeup—and looking genuinely _awful_—were released in order to support an upcoming story that ‘he died.’
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> Meanwhile he’s actually off to Saudi to live in whatever golden palace they’ve prepared to house/display him…

I’m wondering if one of the secret service members assigned to Trump (maybe a new one, who was not one of the “phones wiped” crew), actually overheard Trump and a Saudi national discussing an impending deal to hand over some nuclear secrets that Trump had stashed away somewhere. Maybe details of Israel’s nuclear program?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> And that may mean doing things like cutting poor workers, automating work, etc.

If he’s automating work, why did he get rid of so many high-speed mail sorting machines, especially in the swing states? Quite a few were brand new. He not only had them ripped out, in at least some cases he made sure they were physically destroyed.

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Envelope style mail is decreasing, year on year, and the equipment costs money and labor to maintain it there aren’t envelopes to go into it.

The largest removals were in larger states, with a higher population. California - a solidly blue state - had the most machines removed.

> **[Here’s why the Postal Service wanted to remove hundreds of mail-sorting machines](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/20/postal-service-mail-sorters-removals/)**
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> USPS officials and industry insiders say sorters are taken offline every year, though the 671 earmarked represent a substantially larger share of the agency's inventory.

This isn’t to say that the decommissioning can’t have been planned to screw with things. You would expect more envelope mail on an election year. But it’s not a clear slam dunk on malfeasance, versus a reasonable plan with one the oversight (and then exacerbated by the pandemic).

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
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> [@Skypist](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > recent photos from the LIV golf event showing Donald without makeup—and looking genuinely _awful_—were released
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> I don’t know why those photos were released, but seeing them finally explained to me why trump wears such awful-looking makeup that does nothing for him. He has an _incredible_ amount of sun damage! Must not have been using adequate sunscreen and hats while doing all that golfing.

I’m no expert in such things, but I’m not seeing awful, and I’m not seeing a huge amount of sun damage. He looks really pale, and more his age of 76. This is the photo I’m looking at, which is the worst-appearing one I could find.

> **[Trump says 'nobody's gotten to the bottom of 9/11' while hosting a...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-911-liv-golf-event-nobodys-gotten-to-the-bottom-2022-7)**
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> Family members of 9/11 victims have spoken out against the LIV golf tournament and called on Trump to cancel the event given its Saudi Arabia ties.

OK, this one is worse, and here you can see the sun damage:

> **[Trump fans shocked by 'fresh-faced' ex-president as he tees off with stars](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19352730/donald-trump-tees-off-with-stars-at-liv-golf/)**
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> FORMER President Donald Trump has left supporters shocked by his fresh-faced look as he hosted the LIV Tournament at his Bedminister New Jersey Golf Club. Videos posted to Twitter on Thursday showe…

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Am I actually the first one to suggest that the call coming from within Mar-A-Lago to the authorities to say Trump had some shit he wasn’t supposed to have could have come from none other than Melania? It would be a way of fucking him that she would actually enjoy.

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Heh, as a 50-ish year old crazy person who should never be allowed near executive office: He looks like a 70-ish year old crazy person who should never be allowed near executive office. Entirely appropriate. I want a t-shirt of it.

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I suspect for some who _thought_ they were in the inner circle, the hummingbirds aren’t too far away with their long knives…

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Saudi Arabia? Yes, I guess Idi Amin Dada would have a worthy successor in [Donny Amin Gaga](https://schumanchu.eu/html/l/l_00091donnie~amin.html).

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Why not the most obvious suspect: The Donald? He’d see it as only upside.

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Still going with a Secret Service agent. One of them would definitely have the authority and credibility to testify in a manner which has the Federal Government to move as quickly as they did.

Or this is just an amazing coincidence timed with that Saudi golf tournament, you know, the ones Jared owes $2 billion to. Just a coincidence, a happenstance of timing, nothing to see here…

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> OK, this one is worse, and here you can see the sun damage:

Yeah, that is the picture I was referring to. He has spots all over his cheeks, chin, and jawline, plus a lot of redness. Maybe his makeup melted off in the heat. I’m surprised he didn’t get a spray tan or sweat resistant makeup, as I think he’s pretty vain and likes to pretend he’s a perfect physical specimen despite being elderly and not exercising or following a reasonable diet.

I was looking at it on my laptop, too, where it looked more pronounced than it does on my phone.

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Aren’t quite a lot of Trump’s least-flattering pictures from various golf courses? Maybe he thinks that just being out there proves his physical prowess, kind of like the “kitesurfing Obama” photos. Basically indistinguishable.

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… wrong thread

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On Truth Social.Trump is claiming that the FBI searched Melania’s closet and left a huge mess.  
Maybe someone overheard Melania complaining about hiding the submarine?

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Is it possible that all of this trouble he seems in (Georgia election tampering, Jan 6 commission and DOJ investigation, New York fraud case, documents seized by warrant) is just a sign of things catching up to him? I’d like to think this was inevitable and he and/or his people knew it.

As has happened before, it isn’t the crime that nails him, it’s the cover-up.

Even if he had been elected fair and square, with term limits it would have only kicked his prosecution immunity down the road another four years. Of course, he might have been planning even more DOJ corruption and/or getting rid of term limits (remember the calls of ‘president for life’?) at least as far as he is capable of planning anything.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> As has happened before, it isn’t the crime that nails him, it’s the cover-up.

Like how Martha Stewart got busted?

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Her, too but I was thinking more of Nixon.

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Looks like another of Trump’s henchmen is destined for prison. Under the bus he goes, bumpity bump.

Can’t wait for “Weisselberg? Don’t even know him. Never met him. Maybe he got coffee or something”

> **[Judge denies Trump Org and former CFO's motion to dismiss tax fraud indictment...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/investing/trump-org-allen-weisselberg-tax-fraud-hearing/index.html)**
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> A New York state judge denied the Trump Organization and its former chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg's motions to dismiss tax fraud charges during a hearing Friday.

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Or Agnew. People forget about him for some reason.

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