# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 326
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6507 "2022-08-12T16:58:43Z")
He slunk away quietly and basically shut his pie-hole. I do love how the Maryland Court of Appeals disbarred him, calling him “morally obtuse”. He launched a charity that turned out to be a front for his anti-Israeli views. He lost a lawsuit that required him to pay the state back for kickbacks and bribes he had received. Then he had the gall to try to make this payment tax deductible! (denied). He died in relative obscurity, after circling the bowl. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6508 "2022-08-12T17:08:56Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Of course, he might have been planning even more DOJ corruption and/or getting rid of term limits (remember the calls of ‘president for life’?) at least as far as he is capable of planning anything. Oh, yes, I remember him making the so-called jokes about being president for life like his BFF Xi of China. Considering everything that later transpired, it seems like he meant it! Scares me to death. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6509 "2022-08-12T17:51:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Aren’t quite a lot of Trump’s least-flattering pictures from various golf courses? Maybe he thinks that just being out there proves his physical prowess, kind of like the “kitesurfing Obama” photos. Basically indistinguishable. Certainly his golf shirts show off his torso flab much more than a suit and tie do. :: shudder :: Anyone interested in a good recap of Spiro Agnew’s rise and fall should check out Rachel Maddow’s podcast _Bag Man_. Fascinating stuff, with some weird echoes of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6510 "2022-08-12T18:48:18Z")
I missed this until my daughter pointed it out to me: > **[NewsGuard Amends Fox News’ Rating from ‘Green’ to ‘Red’](https://www.truthorfiction.com/newsguard-amends-fox-news-rating-from-green-to-red/)** > > Subscription-based service NewsGuard, which vets the credibility of news sites, downgraded FoxNews.com from "green" to "red" in July 2022. > On July 21 2022, anti-disinformation activist Nandini Jammi [tweeted](https://twitter.com/nandoodles/status/1550148958781116418) that NewsGuard (a subscription-based browser extension for tracking misinformation and disinformation by source) had downranked Fox News from “trustworthy” to “proceed with caution” Disclaimer: I have no idea of the reliability of either website. At any rate, my response was “Do they have a ‘proceed with a hazmat suit’ rating?” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6511 "2022-08-12T20:22:13Z")
They need a “Run Away!” rating for Faux. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6512 "2022-08-12T20:25:32Z")
They need a “Drown it in a bathtub!” rating for Faux. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6513 "2022-08-12T20:28:20Z")
Any rating for Faux that begins with the word “proceed” is bad advice. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6514 "2022-08-12T20:34:55Z")
Oh, I don’t know. I’d be ok with a rating that said, “Proceed with great haste in the opposite direction.” And now, let’s see what all the people who blasted Hillary for sloppy handling of classified data have to say: > **[FBI removed top secret documents from Trump's home, Justice Department says](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-says-nuclear-weapons-issue-122108215-200627978.html)** > > (Reuters) -FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home in Florida this week removed 11 sets of classified documents including some marked as top secret, the U.S. Justice Department said on Friday while also disclosing it... ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6515 "2022-08-12T20:37:24Z")
Your link is to AOL dot com. You trying to induce flashbacks or something? 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6516 "2022-08-12T20:40:18Z")
Here is their rating process > **[Rating Process and Criteria - NewsGuard](https://www.newsguardtech.com/ratings/rating-process-criteria/)** Note that the green/red distinction is based on a cutoff on some rating statistic where Red is 0-50 and green in 50-100. So it may jut be that Fox’s reliability rating dropped from 52 down to 48. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6517 "2022-08-12T22:36:09Z")
> Story: > **[Southern Baptist Convention under federal investigation for sexual abuse scandal](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/Federal-officials-investigating-Southern-Baptist-17369754.php)** > > The federal probe follows years of reporting from the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio... This one isn’t paywalled and is a summary of the Chronicle report. > **[Department of Justice investigates Southern Baptist Convention following sex...](https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/religion/2022/08/12/southern-baptist-convention-2022-sexual-abuse-doj-investigation-report/10311282002/)** > > The Southern Baptist Convention acknowledged it's under investigation by the Department of Justice following a report on clergy sexual abuse. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6518 "2022-08-12T22:51:14Z")
Wisconsin Assembly leader fires the former judge he hired to investigate voter fraud [https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/08/12/politics/robin-vos-fires-michael-gableman-2020-voting-probe/index.html](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/08/12/politics/robin-vos-fires-michael-gableman-2020-voting-probe/index.html) > Vos first hired Michael Gableman in July 2021 as a special counsel under pressure from former President Donald Trump to relitigate his 2020 loss in the state, but the relationship between the Republican lawmaker and Gableman soured after [Vos refused entreaties](https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/20/politics/donald-trump-wisconsin-2020-presidential-election/index.html) to decertify President Joe Biden’s victory in the state. > Vos’ move to end the probe came just days after he survived a primary challenge from an opponent that Trump and Gableman had backed. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6519 "2022-08-12T23:16:25Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Anyone interested in a good recap of Spiro Agnew’s rise and fall should check out Rachel Maddow’s podcast _Bag Man_ Beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6520 "2022-08-12T23:53:00Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Wisconsin Assembly leader fires the former judge he hired to investigate voter fraud From what that story said, I’m glad to hear that Gableman is a _former_ judge. Sounds like a complete hack. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6521 "2022-08-12T23:58:18Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And now, let’s see what all the people who blasted Hillary for sloppy handling of classified data have to say: They are saying HUNTER BIDEN!!! LAPTOP!!! CARAVAN!!! INFLATION!!! GAS PRICES!! MORE IRS AGENTS!!! THEY’RE COMING FOR _YOU_!!! Safest bet on the planet: that those who blasted Hillary for supposed sloppy handling of classified data have **NO problem whatsoever** with Donald Trump stealing nuclear-arsenal secrets and keeping them in his basement. [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/20/mar-a-lago-chinese-woman-226671/](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/20/mar-a-lago-chinese-woman-226671/) …and where I HOPE the schadenfreude will come in: the possibility that millions of Americans who don’t usually pay all that much attention to the news, will think both that Donald’s conduct is indefensible, and that those GOP politicians defending it should not hold office—and therefore will come out to vote on November 8. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6522 "2022-08-13T00:00:05Z")
To be honest, I’m afraid that this is all so unbelievable that, at this point, people start deciding that it really is all made up because no one could be _that_ dumb, not even Orange Florida Man. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6523 "2022-08-13T03:27:29Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Safest bet on the planet: that those who blasted Hillary for supposed sloppy handling of classified data have **NO problem whatsoever** with Donald Trump stealing nuclear-arsenal secrets and keeping them in his basement. Both political analysts on PBS News Hour tonight were quite sure that the raid\* will be a political plus for TFG, that the TFG-endorsed candidates who had been struggling in the polls were seeing a strong uptick, and that this is bringing all the MAGAts together in strength. The only difference between the two is that one of them seemed to think that the raid should not have happened _for that reason_, and the other one said it had to be done and that we should be prepared to fight back. I hope they’re wrong about what’s next, but I’m not sanguine. \*“raid” being used as shorthand for the entirely legal and justified search on TFG’s Florida premises. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6524 "2022-08-13T06:51:17Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > \*“raid” being used as shorthand for the entirely legal and justified search on TFG’s Florida premises. Raids often **are** legal and justified. Law enforcement has no obligation to be polite, give advance notice, or only arrive at a convenient time when serving a search warrant. ---
**Author:** ![luka.scepanovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@luka.scepanovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luka.scepanovic)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6525 "2022-08-13T08:19:00Z")
As a ginger bearded bald dude from Eastern Europe, I feel I might not have the right to feel schadenfreude about these things. But I do, and now this thread is one of my favorite places on the internet. 😃 ❤ ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6526 "2022-08-13T13:30:21Z")
Normally I agree with both Brooks and Capehardt, but not this time. Most Americans are tired of Trump, and the cracks in his support are growing. Having Top Secret documents in his basement is difficult to explain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=325) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=327)