# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6547 "2022-08-14T23:08:55Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Why would decent honest, not well educated, but not stupid by any stretch, buy the garbage he’s selling? It makes me sad for them because they’ve been conned and it isn’t right.

A lot of the con job has been carried out not by Trump himself but by every television show and every radio show and every podcast and every Facebook page and every website that these people are ever exposed to.

Millions, for example, were not aware that ‘_Trump found to have improperly taken boxes of documents when he left the White House_’ has been a story for MONTHS. They never heard that this had been determined by the National Archives, nor that the Department of Justice became involved when the N.A. called them in, etc. etc. etc.

NONE of the ‘news’ those people you mention consume, has ever acknowledged that any of this ever happened. (So for them, there was no lead-up to the FBI search that took place Monday. They had NO idea that Trump has been being criticized over the documents-grab for _months_.)

And it’s the same for virtually every negative thing we know about Trump. Those decent people you encounter have never heard a word about _any_ of those scandals and credible accusations against him.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6548 "2022-08-15T11:25:30Z")

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“If a crime is committed and no one ever hears about it, did it happen?”

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6549 "2022-08-15T12:20:34Z")

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“Why should you go to jail for a crime somebody else noticed?” Bob Loblaw

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6550 "2022-08-15T15:11:15Z")

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Heheheheh.

> **[Judge: Sen. Graham must testify in Georgia election probe](https://www.aol.com/news/judge-sen-graham-must-testify-125815026-134604624.html)**
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> A federal judge on Monday said the leading Republican must appear before a special grand jury in Atlanta that is investigating whether former President Donald Trump and his allies broke any laws while trying to overturn his narrow 2020 general...

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6551 "2022-08-15T15:23:08Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> This is speculation coming just from me (or at least I haven’t seen anyone else voicing it): the recent photos from the LIV golf event showing Donald without makeup—and looking genuinely _awful_—were released in order to support an upcoming story that ‘he died.’
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> Meanwhile he’s actually off to Saudi to live in whatever golden palace they’ve prepared to house/display him…

I’m sure TFG can be counted on to STFU for the rest of his years and lead a quiet life out of the public eye.

Now pull the other one.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6552 "2022-08-15T16:49:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Heheheheh.
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> [Judge: Graham must testify in Ga. election probe [Video]](https://www.aol.com/news/judge-sen-graham-must-testify-125815026-134604624.html)

This ruling may be subject to appeal, if the 11th Circuit accepts it. So we’ll see.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6553 "2022-08-15T17:18:02Z")

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Wouldn’t this just be another Fifth Amendment show? Not that having all these Trumpers on the record pleading the Fifth would be a bad thing. Simply pair the “I plead the Fifth” with Trumps previous statements about the mob and the Fifth over and over and over again. Still, a waste of time from a prosecutor’s standpoint.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6554 "2022-08-15T17:21:02Z")

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Did Rudy ever make it to Atlanta? I have visions of him standing on the shoulder of the highway, thumb up, hair dye leaking down his face while he sweats in the hot August sun, car after car after car passing him by. Maybe every once in a while someone throws a soft drink cup at him.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6555 "2022-08-15T18:30:03Z")

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> **[Analysis | Another year, another high-profile voter-fraud summit goes bust](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/another-year-another-high-profile-voter-fraud-summit-goes-bust/ar-AA10GDtr?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=ceba2125bfca468b93902c5e0433b055)**
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> This time, it was True the Vote that promised to reveal the evidence behind its claims ... but then didn't.

Summary. Mike Lindell is full of it.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6556 "2022-08-15T18:40:39Z")

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Probably what he stuffs his pillows with.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6557 "2022-08-15T18:47:58Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Probably what he stuffs his pillows with. -

That would be rather…gooshy.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6558 "2022-08-15T18:48:45Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Did Rudy ever make it to Atlanta?

As it happens, the [NY Times just published this article](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/15/us/graham-georgia-investigation-trump.html) (probably paywalled), claiming that Rudy has been notified that he “is a target of a criminal investigation in Georgia into election interference by Donald J. Trump and his advisers.” (Note: target, not witness).

> Mr. Giuliani, who as Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer spearheaded efforts to keep Mr. Trump in power, emerged in recent weeks as a[central figure](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/us/giuliani-trump-georgia-election-investigation.html) in the inquiry being conducted by Fani T. Willis, the district attorney of Fulton County, Ga., which encompasses most of Atlanta.

> Mr. Giuliani is scheduled to appear before the special grand jury on Wednesday at a downtown Atlanta courthouse.

> Mr. Giuliani’s postelection activities on Mr. Trump’s behalf have created problems for him on a number of fronts. The House committee in Washington investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol has highlighted video footage of Mr. Giuliani’s activities in Georgia, and the scheme to create rival slates of presidential electors is also the subject of an [intensifying](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/us/politics/john-eastman-jan-6.html) [investigation](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/22/us/politics/justice-dept-jan-6-subpoenas.html) by the Department of Justice. Mr. Giuliani is among the subjects of civil suits by two makers of voting machines, Dominion and Smartmatic, that seek billions of dollars in damages.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer nutjob…

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6559 "2022-08-15T19:07:29Z")

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> **[Trump warns ‘terrible things are going to happen’ in US after ‘sneak attack’...](https://nypost.com/2022/08/15/trump-vows-hell-help-us-after-sneak-attack-fbi-raid/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump claimed Monday that he was willing to do “whatever I can to help the country” before accusing the FBI of a “sneak attack” raid on his Florida estate.…

> “The people of this country are not going to stand for another scam.”

😆

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> “The people of this country are not going to stand for another scam.”

I wonder how many idiots are going to get arrested for Trump this time?

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6561 "2022-08-15T19:28:17Z")

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The GOP’s Senate campaign wing cuts $10 million in post-September ad buys in 3 states:

> <https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1559252440779788289?t=PeVFUsyPNNSIUgamcIjfMg&s=19>

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6562 "2022-08-15T20:36:15Z")

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I can see why they’re cutting off Dr. Oz; that campaign has been ridiculous since the start. Blake Masters in Arizona is also a nut, but he can probably just get his master, Peter Thiel, to make up the difference.

The Wisconsin one is an interesting development, given that they have a Republican incumbent running there.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6563 "2022-08-15T20:39:02Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > “The people of this country are not going to stand for another scam.”
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> I wonder how many idiots are going to get arrested for Trump this time?

“Nice country you got here. Shame if something happened to it.”

I could be wrong (would hardly be the first time), but I’m reading this as Trump knowing the DOJ has him dead to rights. So his instinctive reaction is to try to bully his way out of it, as he commonly did by countersuing contractors who tried to get him to pay what he owed. I have a feeling Garland is unlikely to back down.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I wonder how many idiots are going to get arrested for Trump this time?

And how many will die. OK, I guess there’s already been at least one. So, to quote David Crosby: “How many more?”

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> [@irae](#):
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> I’m sure TFG can be counted on to STFU for the rest of his years and lead a quiet life out of the public eye.

If he does wind up in Saudi he may find that his freedom to communicate is…not unlimited.

So long as he prefaces every statement with praise of MBS he’ll probably be okay. But forget just _once_, and…

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From your article:

> “By copy of this TRUTH, I respectfully request that these documents be immediately returned to the location from which they were taken. Thank you!,” he wrote.  
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> Trump’s team is arguing that the documents were in fact declassified, citing a “standing order” the former president had while in office that deemed sensitive documents “declassified the moment he removed them” from the White House.

The document were declassified the moment he stole them? Carte blanche, just like that? And anybody thinks he can get away with this in front of a tribunal? I rest my case… even the Gods fight in vain against stupidity.

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