# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 330
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6587 "2022-08-17T01:06:34Z")
Aww, is little Donne 2-scoops having trouble hiring lawyers? > **[Trump is rushing to hire seasoned lawyers — but he keeps hearing ‘No’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/16/trump-lawyers-fbi-raid/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics-white-house)** > > The former president’s current legal team includes a Florida insurance lawyer who’s never had a federal case, a past general counsel for a parking garage company and a former host at far-right One America News. My schadenfreude is deep and dark. I might even make a Schadenfreude pie in his honor. > **[How to Make a Schadenfreude Pie](https://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/26/how-to-make-a-schadenfreude-pie/)** > > Visit the post for more. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6588 "2022-08-17T01:13:23Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Aww, is little Donne 2-scoops having trouble hiring lawyers? > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/16/trump-lawyers-fbi-raid/?utm\_source=feedly&utm\_medium=referral&utm\_campaign=wp\_politics-white-house](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/16/trump-lawyers-fbi-raid/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics-white-house) > > My schadenfreude is deep and dark. I might even make a Schadenfreude pie in his honor. - > > [How to Make a Schadenfreude Pie | Whatever](https://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/09/26/how-to-make-a-schadenfreude-pie/) Alex Jones can probably recommend a law firm. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6589 "2022-08-17T01:20:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Alex Jones can probably recommend a law firm. It’s a perfect match: AJ’s lawyers: Desperate for clients Donny two-scoops: Desperate for lawyers ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6590 "2022-08-17T02:57:34Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Aww, is little Donne 2-scoops having trouble hiring lawyers? Wanted: Lawyers to plead hopeless case of obvious espionage, going up against skilled and focused attorney general who is experienced at getting convictions in major cases. Must be willing to lie and be thrown under the busy when you inevitably lose. Perjury and jail time an obvious perk for you. Payment: Sure. In two weeks. Cheque will be in the mail. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6591 "2022-08-17T05:11:46Z")
The guy that doxxed the names, addresses, and family members of the FBI agents who raided Mar-a-Lago has, himself, been doxxed. > **[The dude who doxxed FBI agents after Mar-A-Lago raid… just got doxxed](https://www.queerty.com/dude-doxxed-fbi-agents-mar-lago-raid-just-got-doxxed-20220815)** > > Karma's a b\*tch... His name is Garrett Ziegler, and he used to be one of Trump’s aides. Hope he gets a long prison sentence for stochastic terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6592 "2022-08-17T05:22:15Z")
Somehow, I’m not sure that doxxing FBI agents is the smartest move. It was just regular peeps who figured out his ID. Somehow I think the FBI could probably figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6593 "2022-08-17T08:12:08Z")
Password fun aside, I do like Eric’s promise to release the surveillance tapes. I guess “At the right time” is the new “In two weeks”. > [@wolfpup](#): > > AJ’s lawyers: Desperate for clients Isn’t the disciplinary hearing for AJ’s Connecticut lawyers (for sending medical records and other privileged docs to Texas) today? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6594 "2022-08-17T14:41:42Z")
Not sure. But there’s this, heheheheh: > **[Colorado judge says Jenna Ellis must appear before 2020 election scheme grand...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/16/politics/jenna-ellis-testimony-georgia/index.html)** > > A judge in Colorado said on Tuesday that Jenna Ellis, an attorney who represented Donald Trump during and after the 2020 election, must appear before the Fulton County, Georgia, grand jury investigating the former President's election schemes. And this!: > **[Rudy Giuliani, a target in Atlanta probe into Trump 2020 election subversion...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/politics/rudy-giuliani-grand-jury-georgia/index.html)** > > Rudy Giuliani, who was told by Atlanta prosecutors that he is a target in their probe of former President Donald Trump's 2020 election subversion schemes in Georgia, appeared behind closed doors for grand jury testimony in the investigation... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6595 "2022-08-17T15:11:45Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Isn’t the disciplinary hearing for AJ’s Connecticut lawyers (for sending medical records and other privileged docs to Texas) today? Why, yes it is. > **[Connecticut Judge Orders Alex Jones' Attorneys to Explain Why They Shouldn't...](https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/alex-jones/connecticut-judge-orders-alex-jones-attorneys-to-explain-why-they-shouldnt-be-punished-for-the-purported-release-of-medical-records-of-sandy-hook-families/)** > > Norm Pattis and F. Andino Reynal must explain whether they should face punishment for allegedly revealing the medical records of one or more Sandy Hook relatives. > [@](#): > > Attorney Norman Pattis, juris number 408681, is ordered to show cause and appear, in person, at a hearing on Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 10:00 a.m., as to whether he should be referred to disciplinary authorities or sanctioned by the court directly, see Connecticut Practice Book Section 2-45, regarding the purported release of medical records of the plaintiffs, in violation of state and federal statute and this court’s protective order, to unauthorized individuals. While these three consolidated lawsuits between the parties are presently pending in the bankruptcy courts, this disciplinary matter is directed to counsel and not the parties, such that the court has jurisdiction to address the disciplinary issues. The clerk is directed to notify Chief Disciplinary Counsel, Brian Staines, of the show cause hearing, and is instructed to immediately provide him with a copy of this order. F. Andino Reynal, Jones’ Texas attorney, has got a similar hearing at the same time for the same reason. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6596 "2022-08-17T15:35:59Z")
Aww shit. I thought they had sent Alex Jones information out, not medical records of Sandy Hook Parents. How in the fuck did he get that in the first place? Serious HIPPA violations it sounds like. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6597 "2022-08-17T16:05:51Z")
Jones’ Connecticut lawyer had it because (AIUI) it was being used as evidence of the trauma inflicted on the plaintiffs in the Connecticut trial. He had no reason - and no right - to share it with Jones’ Texas lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6598 "2022-08-17T16:26:18Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@Gyrate](#): > > > > Isn’t the disciplinary hearing for AJ’s Connecticut lawyers (for sending medical records and other privileged docs to Texas) today? > > Why, yes it is. > > [Alex Jones Lawyers Pattis, Reynal Face Possible Discipline](https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/alex-jones/connecticut-judge-orders-alex-jones-attorneys-to-explain-why-they-shouldnt-be-punished-for-the-purported-release-of-medical-records-of-sandy-hook-families/) > > > [@](#): > > > > Attorney Norman Pattis, juris number 408681, is ordered to show cause and appear, in person, at a hearing on Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 10:00 a.m., as to whether he should be referred to disciplinary authorities or sanctioned by the court directly, see Connecticut Practice Book Section 2-45, regarding the purported release of medical records of the plaintiffs, in violation of state and federal statute and this court’s protective order, to unauthorized individuals. While these three consolidated lawsuits between the parties are presently pending in the bankruptcy courts, this disciplinary matter is directed to counsel and not the parties, such that the court has jurisdiction to address the disciplinary issues. The clerk is directed to notify Chief Disciplinary Counsel, Brian Staines, of the show cause hearing, and is instructed to immediately provide him with a copy of this order. > > F. Andino Reynal, Jones’ Texas attorney, has got a similar hearing at the same time for the same reason. Just to clarify - Pattis’ court appearance was last Wednesday, Aug 10. Reynal is the one scheduled to appear today, Aug 17. I was a little confused by the quoted text that said Aug 10. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6599 "2022-08-17T16:36:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Jones’ Connecticut lawyer had it because (AIUI) it was being used as evidence of the trauma inflicted on the plaintiffs in the Connecticut trial. **He had no reason** - and no right - to share it with Jones’ Texas lawyer. - Gross incompetence is a reason. 😉 Not only in sending it but even worse was not properly claiming it was privileged information and not usable by the other side. Mark Blankston, attorney for the Sandy Hook parents, did destroy the medical records as soon as he realized had them in the inadvertent delivery. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6600 "2022-08-17T16:43:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Mark Blankston, attorney for the Sandy Hook parents, did destroy the medical records as soon as he realized had them in the inadvertent delivery. Hmm, so _that’s_ what a competent attorney looks like. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6601 "2022-08-17T18:57:57Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Aww shit. I thought they had sent Alex Jones information out, not medical records of Sandy Hook Parents. **[They did that, too!](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-jones-lawyers-accidentally-leak-years-emails-infowars-financial-d-rcna41378)**. In fact, AIUI, they sent out so much material (over 300 GB) that the Sandy Hook parents’ lawyers said it bogged down their servers. Furthermore, Jones’ lawyers were so incompetent that they failed to exercise their right to claim privilege over the material and require the other side to destroy it, which had to be done within 10 days. That time having expired, all the material – all of Jones’ texts and emails – is now fair game for the other side to use in whatever way they see fit. Jones is fucked seven ways to Sunday, and perjury is probably the least of it. > Lawyers for Alex Jones appeared to have accidentally sent over the entire contents of the Infowars founder’s phone to the lawyers for the plaintiffs in his defamation trial, according to court proceedings Wednesday. > > Mark Bankston, a lawyer for the parents of one of the children killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre and who are now suing Jones, said during the proceedings that “12 days ago, his [Jones’] attorneys messed up and sent me a digital copy of every text” and email from Jones’ phone. > > After Bankston told Jones that the Sandy Hook parents’ legal team had access to years of his texts and emails, he asked Jones, “Do you know what perjury is?” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6602 "2022-08-17T20:24:03Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > In fact, AIUI, they sent out so much material (over 300 GB) that the Sandy Hook parents’ lawyers said it bogged down their servers. Probably see as a feature. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6603 "2022-08-17T22:11:11Z")
! [https://twitter.com/molcranenewman/status/1559998917357539331?t=kxsIdl6QeLRm654LVg2p0g&s=19](https://twitter.com/molcranenewman/status/1559998917357539331?t=kxsIdl6QeLRm654LVg2p0g&s=19) [https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/ny-trump-org-cfo-allen-weisselberg-plea-deal-20220817-mpwvmurzpvccpiixf5sdo527yi-story.html](https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/ny-trump-org-cfo-allen-weisselberg-plea-deal-20220817-mpwvmurzpvccpiixf5sdo527yi-story.html) Struck me as weird, the reporting earlier which claimed he got a sweetheart deal w/o having to give anything in return. Looks like only half of that was correct… ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6604 "2022-08-17T22:20:06Z")
From what I read, he wouldn’t testify against Trump specifically, but that would cooperate on other issues in the organization, which is in line with the material quoted. So not going to roll over on Trump, but will throw his fellow rats under a bus, who may in turn toss out other rats, and so forth. Sound very like a Trump crony. The fellow rats can’t do much against him, and if he’s careful enough in his testimony, it won’t due direct damage to Trump. Who of course will claim everything was perfect, and he was wronged by all these rats taking advantage of him and the organization. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6605 "2022-08-17T23:32:30Z")
This doesn’t rise to the level of President Obama making fun of Trump at the correspondent’s dinner, but it’s pretty good. Did you know that Al Franken guest hosted for Jimmy Kimmel? I love the way he illustrates just exactly how many votes Trump lost the election by. 13 minutes long. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/f06OcgR3C6E/maxresdefault.jpg "Guest Host Al Franken on “Unannounced RAID” at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago, Hating Ted Cruz & Jan 6 Hearings") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f06OcgR3C6E) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6606 "2022-08-18T00:40:32Z")
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