# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 342
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6827 "2022-09-01T23:44:43Z")
Probably, though of course if Palin gave the okay, there is no violation. Opticians aren’t doctors. They are technicians who fit glasses for people. They aren’t involved in diagnosing problems or writing prescriptions. But they do know what prescription a person has, because they are the ones who fill the prescription. I guess it’s like being a pharmacist, but rather than dispensing medicine they dispense glasses. But they should still be bound by HIPAA laws. Anyone given access to medical information is bound. I’m an IT person and yet in many of my jobs (including my current one) I have potential access to sensitive medical information and I can potentially violate HIPAA. I guess as long as Ms. Leedham hasn’t been censured it was okay. We hear information all of the time in the media about various medical issues that public figures suffer from (from minor to serious) and I assume that the information was allowed through that person or their publicist. If I tell my boss at work that I have to stay home for a week because I tested positive for Covid, she has to keep that confidential. If I post it on my Facebook page, anyone can repeat it because I’ve disclosed it. If I told my boss that I’m fine with her spreading the word about me having Covid so that she can let everyone know why I’m not available, then she’s not violating HIPAA because she had my permission. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6828 "2022-09-01T23:51:57Z")
If he gets instructed to cover for her by his celebrity client who paid him big bucks for a purely cosmetic pair, that would certainly not violate HIPAA. I was reliably informed by Trump’s doctor that he was the healthiest person ever to become president. Just saying… ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6829 "2022-09-01T23:54:18Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The lack of distortion means nothing to me. Does Dick Cheney wear glasses just to be fashionable? Astigmatism correction might not be apparent, but nearsightedness usually is. Cheney likely has presbyopia correction near the lower half of the lenses. Maybe she has corrective lenses, but I wouldn’t believe her optician any more than I’d believe Trump’s physician. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6830 "2022-09-02T00:41:24Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Maybe she has corrective lenses, but I wouldn’t believe her optician any more than I’d believe Trump’s physician. My point is that the lack of distortion doesn’t mean anything. There are plenty of photos available of people with prescription lenses and they look like clear lenses. I don’t know if it has to do with lighting, or the phot lens, or the kind of prescription, or what. But clearly (heh) it’s not evidence of anything. On the other hand, we have one person attesting that they’re prescription lenses, which is stronger evidence than “I don’t like her”. And I don’t like her. She’s bad for the country and I’m glad she lost. Jumping on the Trump bandwagon was shitty of her, especially considering how Trump treated McCain before he died. Real classy. I’m sure if Trump falls and DeSantis becomes the presidential nominee for the Republicans, she’ll suddenly be his biggest supporter. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6831 "2022-09-02T00:57:17Z")
There are various coating that one can get on lenses. One of them is an anti reflective one that helps in photos. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6832 "2022-09-02T01:49:06Z")
I wear progressive lenses. In photos there is almost no distortion effect. I believe the optician. Now stop making it look like I’m defending Palin. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6833 "2022-09-02T02:00:56Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Now stop making it look like I’m defending Palin. Thank you, same here. To hell with her. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6834 "2022-09-02T09:56:15Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I wear progressive lenses. I’ve been accused of something similar and yet I don’t wear glasses (yet) 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6835 "2022-09-02T10:33:32Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I wear progressive lenses. Even your woke glasses hate Palin ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6836 "2022-09-02T13:25:31Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > But that’s really weak sauce I think. Several of the passports were expired, for one thing, so why would he maintain personal physical control over them? Using identifying items to establish constructive possession is very standard. Glenn Kirschner [did a good job explaining it.](https://youtu.be/RWb7itW4i-I?t=141) And honestly, even if Trump could prove one of his employees put the passports there without his knowledge, I’m not sure that would be great for him. He’d be saying that one of his employees had ready access to highly classified documents. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6837 "2022-09-02T15:39:18Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > And honestly, even if Trump could prove one of his employees put the passports there without his knowledge, I’m not sure that would be great for him. He’d be saying that one of his employees had ready access to highly classified documents. Well sure. But we already knew that, because _somebody_ put them there. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6838 "2022-09-02T15:52:33Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Using identifying items to establish constructive possession is very standard. Glenn Kirschner [did a good job explaining it.](https://youtu.be/RWb7itW4i-I?t=141) Ok, I watched some of that video and I think I get it now. It’s not necessarily evidence that Trump personally put these classified documents in the box, but it’s evidence that he or somebody working for him did. As opposed to, for example, some careless and unknown third party stuck a box of classified documents in the pile of boxes that were to be moved from the White House to Mar-a-lago and Trump’s people unknowingly packed up that box without looking in it. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6839 "2022-09-06T05:28:43Z")
Got to admit, this truly livened up my day: [Alex Jones Has Meltdown During 1st Interview After the Sandy Hook Verdict](https://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-sandy-hook-andrew-callaghan-channel-5-all-gas-no-brakes-interview-1739938) > Jones then began to say American amendments should be gotten rid of and sarcastically added other public figures who “killed the kids.” > > “The First Amendment killed them, get rid of the Second Amendment, get rid of the First Amendment, they are bad, they killed the kids too,” he said. > > "George Washington killed them, Jesus killed them, we should rename the entire planet Sandy Hook, everything, there should be holidays. Radar, take him back to the Swamp and give him _the blue pill…_ ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6840 "2022-09-06T14:07:38Z")
Wow! Just wow. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6841 "2022-09-06T17:08:14Z")
Martyr complex much? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6842 "2022-09-06T17:10:03Z")
This is interesting. > **[New Mexico county commissioner and Cowboys for Trump founder removed from...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/06/politics/couy-griffin-new-mexico-january-6/index.html)** > > A New Mexico judge on Tuesday removed January 6 rioter and Cowboys for Trump founder Couy Griffin from his elected position as a county commissioner for his role in the US Capitol attack. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6843 "2022-09-06T17:18:37Z")
So now a judge has officially declared 1/6 to be an insurrection. That article is almost too sweet with schadenfreude. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6844 "2022-09-06T19:55:37Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > So now a judge has officially declared 1/6 to be an insurrection. Kind of the way I see it. Or sedition I suppose. “Two, two crimes in one!” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6845 "2022-09-06T20:17:01Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Wow! I think Alex is done. I honestly think that he’s heading for a breakdown. And it’s not even over for him, there are two more judgements coming, one of which is outside of Texas and may be nastier. The pressure seems to be breaking him. **And it should.** I’m sure it’s a tiny fraction of what he put those families through. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/6846 "2022-09-06T21:34:59Z")
From the limited experience I have of watching Jones, my sense is that his mental state seized right where it was in the middle of a breakdown, some years ago, and that he’s been able to maintain the break right up until current time. It’d be like someone breaking their legs, jumping off the balcony, and then keeping the break unmended so that they could work as a freak in a carnival show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=341) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=343)