# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 352
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7027 "2022-09-22T03:12:09Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > **Oh frabjous day!** šŸ¤£ So does this decision render the ā€œspecial masterā€ completely moot? In a way, that would almost be too bad, if (as appears) the special master was going to slap down the Trump legal mumbo-jumbo just like almost every other judge whose path he has crossed. But if course itā€™s a good thing, because the course of that particular prosecution can now move forward again at speed. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7028 "2022-09-22T03:54:24Z")
Itā€™s been a busy day for The Cheato, so I held my nose and checked his Twuth Social account. No mention of Dearie or the 11th Circuit, heā€™s laser-focused on Letitia James. To no oneā€™s surprise heā€™s targeting the black woman instead of the old white dudes. He even gave her a nickname, Peekaboo, which sounds subtly racist to me. (My first thought when I heard the nickname was ā€œthatā€™s racistā€, then it took me a few minutes to pin down why, but I think because itā€™s a mash-up of two very derogatory terms for black people which Iā€™m donā€™t feel like typing out.) In one missive he accused her of ā€œworking for the banks and insurance companiesā€, I guess he recognizes theyā€™re the most proximate victims of his fraud. Then in his next twuth, sheā€™s a tool of the radical left. Heā€™s all over the place with her. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7029 "2022-09-22T05:43:59Z")
Okay. I know what one of those terms is (it ends with ā€œninnieā€). Whatā€™s the other one? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7030 "2022-09-22T05:53:37Z")
Starts with a J, has a G in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7031 "2022-09-22T05:54:51Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Okay. I know what one of those terms is (it ends with ā€œninnieā€). Whatā€™s the other one? - Iā€™m guessing ā€œspookā€. Itā€™s an old term he would have grown up with. He probably thinks heā€™s being clever since spooks/ghosts say ā€œbooā€. ETA: @Cervaise is likely right. I forgot about that one. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7032 "2022-09-22T06:20:10Z")
@Cervaise @running_coach Thanks, **Cervaise**. I had forgotten that one, along with the one **running\_coach** guessed. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7033 "2022-09-22T06:59:36Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > So does this decision render the ā€œspecial masterā€ completely moot? For all intents and purposes. I believe the entire reason for asking for a special master was to frustrate and delay the investigation by taking the documents out of the DOJā€™s hands. Now that the pertinent documents are back where they belong, things can proceed as they were before all of that nonsense. The special master can go ahead and review all of the other documents that are not relevant to the criminal investigation. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7034 "2022-09-22T09:17:56Z")
Hereā€™s a cite for that which we wonā€™t say: > > > John Iadarola @johniadarola ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7035 "2022-09-22T09:22:07Z")
Honestly, we canā€™t dismiss the possibility that itā€™s just incoherent nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7036 "2022-09-22T12:38:28Z")
Yes, this ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7037 "2022-09-22T14:01:12Z")
oh good grief. how does anyone see trump as anything other than a loser? he is just flailing about now, and scrapping things from the hole in the bottom of the barrel. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7038 "2022-09-22T14:17:15Z")
I know people like to describe it as a cult, and who am I to disagree? The thing about true believers is that they very often continue to believe even in the face of mounting evidence that their doctrines/leadership is wrong. If The Right Reverend Hortonā€™s predicted date of Jesusā€™ return has come and gone, we donā€™t necessarily stop believing but instead make excuses to explain why his prediction didnā€™t come to pass. For many of those who jumped on the Trump Train, it has formed a core part of their identity. And itā€™s tough to change someoneā€™s core identity. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7039 "2022-09-22T14:46:46Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > In one missive he accused her of ā€œworking for the banks and insurance companiesā€, I guess he recognizes theyā€™re the most proximate victims of his fraud. > > Then in his next twuth, sheā€™s a tool of the radical left. Heā€™s all over the place with her. ā€œIf all the Jews were bankers, then how can they be Communists, too?ā€ ā€œSubtle. Very subtle, Fraulein Kost. If they canā€™t destroy us one way, they try the other.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7040 "2022-09-22T15:17:41Z")
The latest Schadenfreude summarized: > **[Dual legal blows hammer Trump | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/politics/donald-trump-dual-legal-blows-analysis/index.html)** > > A day of double legal blows undermined ex-President Donald Trump's battle to avoid criminal action for hoarding classified documents and left him exposed to potential civil penalties targeting the business wealth on which his political mystique is... ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7041 "2022-09-22T15:34:33Z")
ā€œThey sure are hammering at poor Mr. Trump. He must be real dangerous to all those special interests and perverts if they are trying this hard to bring him down. I know heā€™s so strong and smart, Iā€™m sure heā€™ll find his way through, even though there is only so much that one man can take. God bless and protect Donald Trump!ā€ Or thoughts to that effect, which are going through a lot of those core identities these days. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7042 "2022-09-22T15:35:33Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > heā€™s so strong and smart You forgot ā€˜and handsomeā€™. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7043 "2022-09-22T15:37:17Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Or thoughts to that effect, which are going through a lot of those core identities these days. yep, I was listening last night. Apparently he estimated the value of his properties, like any of us would do, but the banks donā€™t _rely_ on that. They do their own due diligence. No one was defrauded. These are large sophisticated banks and insurance companies who can easily look out for their own interests (no mention of the tax fraud) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7044 "2022-09-22T15:44:33Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > If The Right Reverend Hortonā€™s predicted date of Jesusā€™ return has come and gone, we donā€™t necessarily stop believing but instead make excuses to explain why his prediction didnā€™t come to pass. An interesting podcast on the topic: [Podcast Episode 235: Leon Festinger and the Alien Apocalypse - Futility Closet](https://www.futilitycloset.com/2019/02/04/podcast-episode-235-leon-festinger-and-the-alien-apocalypse/) As I remember it, the predicted apocalypse (spoiler alert) did not occur. Some cult members took the hint and realized they had been wrong all along. Some, however, doubled down and became even more fervent believers; and the more they had prepared and dedicated themselves to the predicted apocalypse, the harder it was for them to give up their belief. Thatā€™s part of the reason I donā€™t challenge Trump supporters very often. The more effort someone puts in to defending Trump now, the more they may feel they have to stick with him to the very end. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7045 "2022-09-22T17:09:46Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Some cult members took the hint and realized they had been wrong all along. Some, however, doubled down and became even more fervent believers; and the more they had prepared and dedicated themselves to the predicted apocalypse, the harder it was for them to give up their belief. When predictions fail to be fulfilled, theyā€™ll go through a sort of Cult Darwinism, where the saner people realize that theyā€™ve been involved in bullshit and get out. The really bonkers people stick around, and without the potential moderating influence of the saner folks, they just get nuttier in a kind of sick feedback loop. Think of it like being tempered by a fire; it just gets more rabid the more it gets tested. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7046 "2022-09-22T17:12:27Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Apparently he estimated the value of his properties, like any of us would do, but the banks donā€™t _rely_ on that. They do their own due diligence. No one was defrauded. These are large sophisticated banks and insurance companies who can easily look out for their own interests (no mention of the tax fraud) Hmmm, no. I mean, yes, this is true to a pointā€¦ that point being where we give the bank and the IRS equal valuations. However, when we repeatedly give the bank a $750 million valuation and we repeatedly give the IRS a $75 million valuation, thatā€™s where we get in trouble. And as the charts above note, he did this a LOT. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=351) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=353)