# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/721 "2021-02-03T16:02:09Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Double jeopardy doesn’t technically apply to convictions in both the state and federal systems. Prosecutors honor the principle as a matter of policy, not law. It depends on the state law. New York state has a law that recognises double jeopardy for federal offences, but they recently amended it to exclude anyone who got a federal pardon. New York DAs can charge someone under state law who has been pardoned federally. [https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-signs-legislation-closing-new-yorks-double-jeopardy-loophole-authorizing-state#:~:text=October%2016%2C%202019-,Governor%20Cuomo%20Signs%20Legislation%20Closing%20New%20York’s%20Double%20Jeopardy%20Loophole,Individuals%20Pardoned%20By%20a%20President&text=Cuomo%3A%20"No%20one%20is%20above,who%20seeks%20to%20protect%20them."](https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-signs-legislation-closing-new-yorks-double-jeopardy-loophole-authorizing-state#:~:text=October%2016%2C%202019-,Governor%20Cuomo%20Signs%20Legislation%20Closing%20New%20York's%20Double%20Jeopardy%20Loophole,Individuals%20Pardoned%20By%20a%20President&text=Cuomo%3A%20%22No%20one%20is%20above,who%20seeks%20to%20protect%20them.%22) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/722 "2021-02-03T16:03:11Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Double jeopardy doesn’t technically apply to convictions in both the state and federal systems. Prosecutors honor the principle as a matter of policy, not law. [In Manafort’s case, the courts ruled that double jeopardy did apply.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-22/n-y-manafort-case-barred-by-double-jeopardy-appeals-court-says) But yes, in many cases it shouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/723 "2021-02-03T16:22:11Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > Looks like some of the Scots want Agent Orange’s finances investigated as well… If it’s not Scottish, it’s _crap!_ ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/724 "2021-02-03T19:10:23Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > If it’s not Scottish, it’s _crap!_ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/725 "2021-02-03T23:10:21Z")
[Oh this is beautiful.](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/02/parental-leave-trump-aides-465302) The Biden administration isn’t extending benefits for Trump political appointees. What fun to hear these fascist scum whining about “But what will we do without medical insurance? How can I look for a job while caring for an infant?” You spent four years trying to inflict those problems on as many other people as you could, and now you complain when the shoe is on the other foot. Why don’t you take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut? Why don’t you take a flying fuck at the moooooooon? ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/726 "2021-02-03T23:23:55Z")
That’s priceless! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/727 "2021-02-03T23:26:53Z")
A lot of those loose ends could have been sorted out if only the Trump administration had actually worked with the Biden transition team. But they didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/728 "2021-02-03T23:27:23Z")
Best part? > The official added that “appointees have been advised that they have options including COBRA and the Affordable Care Act.” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/729 "2021-02-03T23:50:44Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > [Oh this is beautiful.](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/02/parental-leave-trump-aides-465302) The Biden administration isn’t extending benefits for Trump political appointees. What fun to hear these fascist scum whining about “But what will we do without medical insurance? How can I look for a job while caring for an infant?” > > You spent four years trying to inflict those problems on as many other people as you could, and now you complain when the shoe is on the other foot. … > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Best part? > > > The official added that “appointees have been advised that they have options including COBRA and the Affordable Care Act.” . I hope the notifications also included one or more quotations from Trump Administration officials (ideally the recipient him- or herself), along the lines of ‘_we are pursuing these lawsuits to dismantle the ACA because we believe this is best for America_’ or ‘_we don’t want to reward lazy, irresponsible behavior, therefore we are cutting this benefits program_.’ That would be sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/730 "2021-02-04T00:25:32Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > [Oh this is beautiful.](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/02/parental-leave-trump-aides-465302) The Biden administration isn’t extending benefits for Trump political appointees. [![](https://i.imgur.com/DsfufGe.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/DsfufGe.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/731 "2021-02-04T02:09:12Z")
> [@](#): > > “It makes you look like you’re desperate for work and a story about me wanting to get money is not going to work well when I’m negotiating with people I’m talking to,” he said. “ **I’m trying to convince everybody that I’m in a perfectly good situation**.” Looks like he learned a lot from Trump. Hope that helps him in his desperate search for a job. /s ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/732 "2021-02-04T02:34:04Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > [Oh this is beautiful.](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/02/parental-leave-trump-aides-465302) The Biden administration isn’t extending benefits for Trump political appointees. What fun to hear these fascist scum whining about “But what will we do without medical insurance? How can I look for a job while caring for an infant?” Ant Man could carry a violin into the Quantum Realm and it would still be too big. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/733 "2021-02-04T03:00:43Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Ant Man could carry a violin into the Quantum Realm and it would still be too big. This? This right here? _This_ is why I love the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/734 "2021-02-04T18:50:42Z")
Smartmatic is jumping on the defamation train with a [$2.7 billion lawsuit against](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/04/business/media/smartmatic-fox-news-lawsuit.html) Fox News, Sidney Powell, Guiliani, Lou Dobbs, and Jeanine Pirro. > Smartmatic is seeking damages of “no less than $2.7 billion,” the complaint says, and is requesting a jury trial. Its move against Fox follows two lawsuits filed last month by Dominion Voting Systems: one [against Mr. Giuliani](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/25/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-dominion-trump.html), the other against [Ms. Powell](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/dominion-voting-systems-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-pro-trump-attorney-sidney-powell.html). Dominion is another company named by conspiracy theorists claiming election fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/735 "2021-02-04T23:35:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > A lot of those loose ends could have been sorted out if only the Trump administration had actually worked with the Biden transition team. > > But they didn’t Say what you will about Donald Trump, but you have to admit: his ability to fuck over his friends and allies is god-level. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/736 "2021-02-04T23:53:33Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Smartmatic is jumping on the defamation train with a [$2.7 billion lawsuit against](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/04/business/media/smartmatic-fox-news-lawsuit.html) Fox News, Sidney Powell, Guiliani, Lou Dobbs, and Jeanine Pirro. > > > Smartmatic is seeking damages of “no less than $2.7 billion,” the complaint says, and is requesting a jury trial. Its move against Fox follows two lawsuits filed last month by Dominion Voting Systems: one [against Mr. Giuliani](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/25/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-dominion-trump.html), the other against [Ms. Powell](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/dominion-voting-systems-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-pro-trump-attorney-sidney-powell.html). Dominion is another company named by conspiracy theorists claiming election fraud. Kurt Eichenwald, today, has detailed a bit of the case against Fox News, with specific lies told by Fox anchors (sometimes repeatedly). He ends his thread with: > [@](#): > > This lawsuit literally could spell the end of FoxNews. Settlement with losses that huge is very difficult, particularly when falsity, recklessness, malice, motive and damage is so undeniable. Again, I’ve never seen anything like it. Gosh, that would be sad! > **[Thread by @kurteichenwald on Thread Reader App](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1357431447288692743.html)** > > Thread by @kurteichenwald: I read the @smartmatic lawsuit. In 30 yrs as a journalist, Ive never seen anything like it. This likely cant be settled. The journalistic malice & incompetence shown by @FoxNews was off t...… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/737 "2021-02-05T04:05:48Z")
Where was Fox’ legal department while all this was happening? Do they never have someone with a law degree review their stories to pull them back in when they go a little too far out on a limb? That’s OK, I think I know the answer to that one. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/738 "2021-02-05T07:52:40Z")
One of Fox’s problems seems to be that Fox News has essentially no management. Lachlan Murdoch basically does nothing, and Suzanne Scott just sits around and twiddles her thumbs. That has allowed their hosts to get progressively more insane with no supervision or direction. The clowns are running the circus over there. Before he was fired for being a psycho creep, Roger Ailes would at least reign in the on-air cretins from time to time when lawyers started freaking out. Scott and Murdoch seem to have no particular involvement with actually managing their talent. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/739 "2021-02-05T13:19:32Z")
Rudy G goes on WABC (radio) to do his radio show and, unbeknownst to Rudes, they put a disclaimer in the introduction: > ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/740 "2021-02-05T14:02:34Z")
Three massive defamation suits in progress and Rudy still wonders why people are distancing themselves from his remarks? That is a _spectacular_ level of wilful cluelessness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=38)