# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7467 "2022-11-05T01:11:18Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Could someone enlighten me?

The J allusion above was to “jigaboo”. She’s black. But nobody knows why he calls her that.

[Speculation here](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/letitia-james-peekaboo-trump-nickname-theories.html)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7468 "2022-11-05T01:18:09Z")

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Senility? Nah, he’s simply an infinity mirror of stupidity.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7469 "2022-11-05T01:18:16Z")

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Ahhh. Thanks squeegee. Didn’t know where to put that ‘J’

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
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I’ve also heard speculation that it is a combination of pickani–y and j–aboo. A racist twofer.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7471 "2022-11-05T23:09:42Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I predict that at some point in the future, Trump is going to be cited for contempt, and will have some jail time given to him. Because he won’t be able to stop his mouth from working. The senility is getting closer to the surface.

Given some of the things he’s posted or said about judges, it really is amazing that ‘contempt’ hasn’t been charged.

Note, also, that he attributed words to Letitia James that (we can assume) she never said. There should be a libel charge in their somewhere:

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> …You have a Corrupt, Racist, Weak on Crime Attorney General, Letitia “Peekaboo”James, who campaigned on “I will get Trump, even though she knew NOTHING about me. Then you have a highly political, biased Judge, who is totally controlled by my worst enemies. His rulings and manner are SICK. He gave his quick hearing, & ridiculous decision, right before Midterms - A No No! He’s worse than Peekaboo, and a real “Trump Hater."

No close-quote after “I will get Trump”–so everything after that _is what he’s claiming she said_.

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(Okay, Donald’s illiteracy is well-known, so probably no one would bring a case against him based on this. Still…)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7472 "2022-11-05T23:47:58Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Given some of the things he’s posted or said about judges, it really is amazing that ‘contempt’ hasn’t been charged.

‘Contempt’ has a very specific definition within the meaning of the law. It doesn’t mean you can’t go out and say mean things about the judge. That would violate an individual’s freedom of speech rights. It means willfully defying a judge’s order. Say, a gag order.

We won’t see a gag order issued unless/until charges are laid against Trump. I think a gag order is a very real possibility if he’s charged. The remedy if he violates such an order is incarceration or home confinement. If he continues to violate, remove the toys (cell phone, internet access).

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
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That would create a situation where I’d love to be a fly on the wall:

Him, under house arrest in Mar-A-Lago, watching NewsMax and OAN, hearing reports from CNN and other sources, and not having a cell phone or internet access to respond to any news, and just seeing him turn oranger and oranger.

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> That would create a situation where I’d love to be a fly on the wall:

Better be nimble. The ketchup would be flying fast and thick at that wall.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
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There hasn’t been nearly enough schadenfreude in here about Lindsey Graham having to testify about trump’s attempt to change the vote in Georgia!

I was listening to the Meidas Touch podcast earlier this week (they are all lawyers), and they said that LG could challenge each question in real time, so it sounds like a real mess is possible during his testimony.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
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Hilarious - let’s hope this is the only time I’ll ever use Fox as a cite.

> **[RNC wont pay Trump's legal bills if he launches another White House bid,...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rnc-wont-pay-trumps-legal-bills-launches-another-white-house-bid-chair-says)**
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> Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said her organization would no longer pay former President Donald Trump's legal bills if he launched a 2024 campaign.

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> “We cannot do in-kind contributions to any candidate right now. He’s the former president being attacked from every which way with lawsuits, and he’s certainly raised more under the RNC than we’ve spent on these bills,” McDaniel said.

Not sure how much this will hobble the living fuck out of Don.

HOPEFULLY SHTILOADS, YEAH!!!

The rube-grifting will have to get turned up to 11 now.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Hilarious - let’s hope this is the only time I’ll ever use Fox as a cite.  
> [RNC wont pay Trump's legal bills if he launches another White House bid, chair says | Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rnc-wont-pay-trumps-legal-bills-launches-another-white-house-bid-chair-says)
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> > [@](#):
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> > “We cannot do in-kind contributions to any candidate right now. He’s the former president being attacked from every which way with lawsuits, and he’s certainly raised more under the RNC than we’ve spent on these bills,” McDaniel said.
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> Not sure how much this will hobble the living fuck out of Don.
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> HOPEFULLY SHTILOADS, YEAH!!!
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> The rube-grifting will have to get turned up to 11 now.

This is one of the many reasons why I don’t expect Trump to announce his candidacy anytime soon.  
I expect him to tease an announcement, constantly. I have no doubt that “multiple sources close to the President” have said he will announce right after the mid-terms” ( as reported by the media) but I don’t think he actually will.  
It will hurt him financially, not only will the RNC not find his multiple legal battles if he announces, but other money he raises will be subjected to more restrictions and scrutiny.  
Besides, he’s a reality TV performer, he’s going to want to tease this out as long as he can before pulling the trigger. I actually suspect that at some point he’ll get into trouble with the FEC for campaigning when he hasn’t announced his candidacy.  
I think he’ll drag it out until next summer.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7478 "2022-11-06T22:19:02Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> This is one of the many reasons why I don’t expect Trump to announce his candidacy anytime soon.  
> I expect him to tease an announcement, constantly. I have no doubt that “multiple sources close to the President” have said he will announce right after the mid-terms” ( as reported by the media) but I don’t think he actually will.  
> It will hurt him financially, not only will the RNC not find his multiple legal battles if he announces, but other money he raises will be subjected to more restrictions and scrutiny. …

Yes, this. Trump won’t want to cut off the RNC cash nor comply with campaign-finance laws. (Not that he’s ever cared much about laws, but even he may be aware that there’s not only a lot of eyes on him, but that he can’t necessarily trust those around him.)

I also agree with your “tease this out as long as he can” remark. It will be the most stringent test of the IQs of his fans yet: can he keep them sending him cash?

None of them know anything about his infamous ‘in two weeks’ claims, because no one on FoxNews would ever have dared to point out this pattern. So he may be able to string them along with ‘in two weeks’ for quite a while.

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There’s also the issue of Garland’s DOJ and whether it will treat Trump’s ‘will announce soon’ posture as a prohibition on indicting him. A lot of us will be watching that pretty closely.

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What’s the RNC’s game here? Do they genuinely think it matters for Trump’s popularity and chances in the primaries if he delays an announcement? Why not cut him off right now? Are they just doing a delay tactic to keep him from announcing until after midterms and then they’ll cut him off whether he announces or not? Do they think they’ll be able to compete with his fundraising reach at that point?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7480 "2022-11-06T22:42:21Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> There’s also the issue of Garland’s DOJ and whether it will treat Trump’s ‘will announce soon’ posture as a prohibition on indicting him. A lot of us will be watching that pretty closely. -

Garland has already said publicly DOJ will move when they’re ready to move, irrespective of Trump’s status with regard to running. (I can’t find a reference to this in print, so I may have heard it on some news broadcast.) In any case, Trump as a candidate or not-a-candidate has no bearing on what DOJ will do, or when.

Here’s a great primer on Merrick Garland and why I remain confident he’s going to charge Trump.

> **[The Inevitable Indictment of Donald Trump](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/10/merrick-garland-donald-trump-investigation-indictment/671683/)**
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> Merrick Garland hasn’t tipped his hand, but it’s clear to me that he will bring charges against the former president.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7481 "2022-11-06T23:03:16Z")

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As always: I hope your faith will be rewarded. That will be a reward for all of us, and for the rule of law–and I’ll be thrilled to apologize for doubting Garland should it occur.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
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No need to apologize. It’s been an awful ride, and one that would shake anyone’s faith in the system. And like you, I hope I’m right.

Even knowing the ride will become more awful as soon as it happens.

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Well, the right\* is definitely promising Stuff will happen the moment Trump is indicted.

That cannot stay Garland’s hand, though. It cannot.

\* (Lindsey Graham among others.)

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That article actually made me feel sorry for Garland. It’s a brutal choice.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Well, the right\* is definitely promising Stuff will happen the moment Trump is indicted.

So we’re the rule of law unless the mob objects?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7486 "2022-11-07T13:00:25Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Well, the right\* is definitely promising Stuff will happen the moment Trump is indicted.

Bring it on assholes.

We can build more prisons. We can’t lose democracy.

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