# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 379
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7567 "2022-11-10T16:34:11Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I do think he’ll postpone the announcement until after the GA run-off [He’s being advised to do this](https://nypost.com/2022/11/10/trump-advised-to-hold-off-on-mar-a-lago-announcemen) but we know how well he responds to advice. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7568 "2022-11-10T19:06:30Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Cardigan](#): > > > > I hope and pray he chooses to hold several of those rallies in GA. > > Yep. Trump fucked up a runoff vote in Georgia before. I’m sure he can do it again! I’m certainly willing to see him try. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7569 "2022-11-10T19:19:39Z")
And he is being told that he is the reason why the GOP suffered as badly as it did this midterm. He has only this one last chance to prove the haters wrong! ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7570 "2022-11-10T19:32:17Z")
I’m copying this from a neighbouring thread because it fits better here: > A strange election, this was. Trump is “livid”\* and shouting at Melania because she advised him badly about Dr. Oz, many people claim. I will quote _[the Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/midterm-elections-2022/donald-trump-dr-oz-midterms-b2221512.html)_, though I could have even quoted Faux News, all found in my search engine. > And even a D candidate who had been dead for weeks [won 86%](https://www.rawstory.com/democrat-scores-86-percent-of-the-vote-in-pennsylvania-despite-being-dead/) of the vote! Had he been alive he would have easily won 120-140%! Under this circumstances I almost feel sorry for the Rs. Almost, but not quite. Or should this _be best_ \*\* told in the schadenfreude thread? > > \* I think it is funny that livid means [four completely different things](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/livid), three of them colours, but the website even explains why this is historically so. I think the quotable sources all mean the fourth meaning in this case. > \*\* © Melania, I guess. Although I actually don’t care, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7571 "2022-11-10T20:00:28Z")
Hopefully someone will put out ads noting the stock market moving up as the nation breathes a sigh of relief that the GOP (maybe) doesn’t control Congress and Trump has been wounded. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7572 "2022-11-10T20:22:57Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > I’m copying this from a neighbouring thread because it fits better here: > > > A strange election, this was. Trump is “livid”\* and shouting at Melania because she advised him badly about Dr. Oz, many people claim. I will quote _[the Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/midterm-elections-2022/donald-trump-dr-oz-midterms-b2221512.html)_, though I could have even quoted Faux News, all found in my search engine. > > And even a D candidate who had been dead for weeks [won 86%](https://www.rawstory.com/democrat-scores-86-percent-of-the-vote-in-pennsylvania-despite-being-dead/) of the vote! Had he been alive he would have easily won 120-140%! Under this circumstances I almost feel sorry for the Rs. Almost, but not quite. Or should this _be best_ \*\* told in the schadenfreude thread? > > > > \* I think it is funny that livid means [four completely different things](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/livid), three of them colours, but the website even explains why this is historically so. I think the quotable sources all mean the fourth meaning in this case. > > \*\* © Melania, I guess. Although I actually don’t care, do you? Here’s Trumps response. He’s implying that Oz made a mistake by not being an election denier. [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Ksj1Gmr.png "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/Ksj1Gmr) ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7573 "2022-11-10T21:03:21Z")
> I am blaming our great First Lady, Melania, and Sean Hannity Great misuse of an Oxford comma. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7574 "2022-11-10T21:08:33Z")
He calls Melania a _former_ First Lady. So he agrees he isn’t President anymore! And then there’s this: > **[No more than 5 out of 50 current GOP senators want to see Trump run for...](https://news.yahoo.com/no-more-5-50-current-234543060.html)** > > Outside the Capitol, Republican commentators are pointing fingers at Donald Trump for the GOP's performance in 2022 midterms. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7575 "2022-11-10T21:43:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > And he is being told that he is the reason why the GOP suffered as badly as it did this midterm. He has only this one last chance to prove the haters wrong! Apparently announcement day is… for now… Tuesday: > ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7576 "2022-11-10T22:07:30Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > He calls Melania a _former_ First Lady. So he agrees he isn’t President anymore! Or he’s just getting divorced again. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7577 "2022-11-10T22:08:35Z")
Of all the Trump endorsed candidates who lost, how many were in favor of extreme abortion restrictions? I would guess that this is the main reason that they lost, incidentally they were endorsed by Trump. I believe that Republicans who now feel that Trump is a liability are missing the forest for the trees. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7578 "2022-11-10T22:16:16Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > > I am blaming our great First Lady, Melania, and Sean Hannity > > Great misuse of an Oxford comma. Not that I in any way want to support, defend, or agree with TFG, but that is a (correct) use of the [appositive](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/appositive/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce17N5oJ4uL7a20iyK6kNY067sDm_IMMKu6u1AYzVK6u54XDKM7_MsCIaAuj2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds), and not a misuse of the Oxford comma. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7579 "2022-11-10T22:18:45Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > So far, his strategy seems to be to insist HE had a great night “While in certain ways yesterday’s election was somewhat disappointing …” From what I hear from Maggie Haberman, citing multiple sources, the “somewhat disappointing” bit could be objectively measured in the number of ketchup-laden dishes thrown at the wall. Election night sounded like maybe a five-pitcher. For a while there the orange shit-gibbon was more red than orange. 🤣 I think one entire ketchup-pitch was motivated by his boy Oz losing, and maybe a second one following Oz’s surprisingly graceful concession, which by contrast made Trump look like the petulant child that he is. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7580 "2022-11-10T22:37:34Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > the number of ketchup-laden dishes thrown at the wall Now _that’s_ a red wave! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7581 "2022-11-10T23:23:12Z")
Federal judge sanctions Trump lawyers, fines them $50,000 for bad faith litigation in Florida. > ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7582 "2022-11-10T23:31:48Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Not that I in any way want to support, defend, or agree with TFG, but that is a (correct) use of the [appositive](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/appositive/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce17N5oJ4uL7a20iyK6kNY067sDm_IMMKu6u1AYzVK6u54XDKM7_MsCIaAuj2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds), and not a misuse of the Oxford comma. I think you were whooshed; that Melania and Hannity shared the title of First Lady. Due to Hannity acting like he was married to Trump, acting the devoted wife on the air. (Or maybe they are the same person somehow.) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7583 "2022-11-11T00:00:43Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Federal judge sanctions Trump lawyers, fines them $50,000 for bad faith litigation in Florida. That is delightful news. May all attorneys who consider working for Trump, take note. > > [@Cardigan](#): > > > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > > > I do think he’ll postpone the announcement until after the GA run-off, because he can hold stupid rallies for Walker all month, and he’ll get his rally fix. > > I hope and pray he chooses to hold several of those rallies in GA. He should go door-to-door and solicit votes for Walker, too. (In a golf cart, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7584 "2022-11-11T00:06:31Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@commasense](#): > > > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > > > > I am blaming our great First Lady, Melania, and Sean Hannity > > > > > > Great misuse of an Oxford comma. > > > > Not that I in any way want to support, defend, or agree with TFG, but that is a (correct) use of the [appositive](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/appositive/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce17N5oJ4uL7a20iyK6kNY067sDm_IMMKu6u1AYzVK6u54XDKM7_MsCIaAuj2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds), and not a misuse of the Oxford comma. > > I think you were whooshed; that Melania and Hannity shared the title of First Lady. Due to Hannity acting like he was married to Trump, acting the devoted wife on the air. (Or maybe they are the same person somehow.) Heh, I like your interpretation! But, actually I was poking at the unindicted co-conspirator’s awkward phrasing–using an appositive comma where an Oxford comma is often used invites all sorts of humorous miscommunications. I’m the sort of nerdy grammarian who likes to point such things out, and I’m not the only one. 😃 Sorry, @commasense, I should’ve put in a winkie smile to make clear I wasn’t being earnest. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7585 "2022-11-11T00:07:25Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Federal judge sanctions Trump lawyers, fines them $50,000 for bad faith litigation in Florida. More of this, please! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7586 "2022-11-11T03:21:31Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Of all the Trump endorsed candidates who lost, how many were in favor of extreme abortion restrictions? I would guess that this is the main reason that they lost, incidentally they were endorsed by Trump. > I believe that Republicans who now feel that Trump is a liability are missing the forest for the trees. It’s possible for a party to have more than one liability, you know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=378) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=380)