# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 386
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7707 "2022-11-18T04:55:09Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Hypothetically, let’s say that an investigation into Hunter ends with him being given jail time. I think your hypothetical requires buying into far-right Republican bullshit. You don’t get jail time for owning a laptop. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7708 "2022-11-18T04:56:04Z")
Yeah, I know. Indulge me. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7709 "2022-11-18T07:29:55Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What country are those dolls from? They are properly called _matryoshka_ dolls, I’m pretty sure they’re German. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7710 "2022-11-18T12:42:23Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’m pretty sure they’re German. If I remember my _QI_ clips correctly, they originated in China. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7711 "2022-11-18T13:05:22Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Hypothetically, let’s say that an investigation into Hunter ends with him being given jail time. Does Joe get involved? Does he pull a Bill Clinton and give Hunter a “midnight pardon?” Biden doesn’t seem to be entirely self-restrained. He’s significantly better than Trump but I feel like he’s still has the “I ain’t going to let someone hurt my kid when I’ve got the power to stop it” mindset lurking in his brain. But, likewise, he’ll understand that, that’s a last resort tactic. My personal expectation is that he’ll lean real hard on Hunter to turn on others and bargain, and hit the DOJ with a wall of lawyers high enough to convince them that it’s simply easier to cut a deal than try to prosecute him for anything giant. Hunter will serve some minimal time, and if there’s still anything left for him to do when Joe leaves office then he’ll issue a pardon. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7712 "2022-11-18T13:42:37Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Hunter will serve some minimal time For what, exactly? As far as anyone knows, no crimes have been committed. The laptop is totally compromised as evidence of anything at all. There is also the great probability that there isn’t anything on it at all, because they would have made it public long before now. So just what is Hunter going to jail for? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7713 "2022-11-18T14:08:09Z")
Watersliding with hookers? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7714 "2022-11-18T14:40:41Z")
> **[Judge blocks DeSantis law on barring 'woke' education](https://apnews.com/article/ron-desantis-florida-discrimination-business-racial-injustice-a6f340a48989e67669418e85f2986ebf)** > > A federal judge in Florida has blocked a law pushed by Gov. Ron DeSantis that restricts certain race-based conversations and analysis in colleges. Tallahassee U.S. Some nice judge-y _bon mots…_ > [@](#): > > “Our professors are critical to a healthy democracy, and the State of Florida’s decision to choose which viewpoints are worthy of illumination and which must remain in the shadows has implications for us all,” [Tallahassee U.S. District Judge Mark] Walker wrote. “If our ‘priests of democracy’ are not allowed to shed light on challenging ideas, then democracy will die in darkness. > [@](#): > > In his lengthy ruling, Walker quoted from George Orwell’s dystopian novel “1984,” writing “‘It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen,’ and the powers in charge of Florida’s public university system have declared the State has unfettered authority to muzzle its professors in the name of ‘freedom.’” ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7715 "2022-11-18T15:01:37Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > For what, exactly? As far as anyone knows, no crimes have been committed > **[Federal agents see chargeable tax, gun-purchase case against Hunter Biden](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/06/hunter-biden-tax-gun-charges/)** > > The U.S. Attorney in Delaware, a Trump appointee, now must decide whether to charge Hunter Biden with tax crimes and a false statement related to a gun purchase. Tax issues and a weapons charge seem the most likely. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7716 "2022-11-18T15:04:21Z")
Can Biden just give Hunter an all-encompassing pre-emptive pardon, like Ford did with Nixon? If Hunter accepts, does that imply guilt? Does it matter? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7717 "2022-11-18T15:21:36Z")
Yes, yes and politically, yes, it would definitely become a big issue. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7718 "2022-11-18T15:57:24Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Watersliding with hookers? God help us all if that becomes a crime. (I’m afraid to google “watersliding” now) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7719 "2022-11-18T15:58:19Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Tax issues and a weapons charge seem the most likely. It’s not nothing, but for all the hyperventilating around him, it seems like small beer, depending on what the potential tax charges are. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7720 "2022-11-18T16:10:23Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Tax issues and a weapons charge seem the most likely. It’s okay when Republicans do it. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7721 "2022-11-18T16:19:11Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > It’s not nothing, but for all the hyperventilating around him, it seems like small beer, depending on what the potential tax charges are. Well, as said, my expectation is that the family leaned on him to dish out on anything he knew about others in his various sundry business dealings and, possibly, the charges that are under consideration are after bargaining a lot of other charges away. We’ll need to read the charges leveled against people at the various companies that Hunter worked with, to try and get a sense for what all Hunter might have been guilty of. (Assuming, of course, that there were others to dish on and criminal things to dish out.) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7722 "2022-11-18T16:20:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > God help us all if that becomes a crime. > > (I’m afraid to google “watersliding” now) Hiring women for sex is still illegal in most US jurisdictions AFAIK. Watersliding naked with them isn’t necessarily, although severe chafing could be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7723 "2022-11-18T16:26:58Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > > > Hunter will serve some minimal time > > For what, exactly? As far as anyone knows, no crimes have been committed. The laptop is totally compromised as evidence of anything at all. There is also the great probability that there isn’t anything on it at all, because they would have made it public long before now. So just what is Hunter going to jail for? And if they are going to focus on things that happened when Joe Biden was VP, they are going to run up against statute of limitations issues. Not that I’ve seen evidence that anything illegal happened. Mostly I think they are going to throw shade on normal investment banking activities, many which result in bankers getting lots of money for leveraging their connections without doing much work. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7724 "2022-11-18T16:55:29Z")
> **[Ivanka Trump was unhappy about how her friends 'turned their backs' on her...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivanka-trump-unhappy-her-friends-125141639.html)** > > Ivanka Trump hated "all the criticism and threats" that came with being in politics, The New York Post reported, citing an unnamed source. > “She feels it’s bad for her family … and negative in general in her circle of friends,” the source said, adding that the former president’s daughter didn’t make any new friends during her time as an unpaid advisor in the White House. Hm… Schadenfreude for the consequences of her actions becoming part of the Trump administration? Or Schadenfreude for Trump because the daughter he loves so much is starting to ghost him? ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7725 "2022-11-18T16:58:30Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Mostly I think they are going to throw shade on normal investment banking activities, many which result in bankers getting lots of money for leveraging their connections without doing much work. So even if the motivation is petty retribution and calumny, some good may come of this? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7726 "2022-11-18T17:15:03Z")
Guy who laundered money into Trump’s campaign, from a Russian multi-marketer, is judged guilty: > **[GOP political operative convicted of funneling illegal foreign contributions...](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3741070-gop-political-operative-convicted-of-funneling-illegal-foreign-contributions-to-trump-campaign/)** > > A federal jury convicted a Republican political operative on Thursday for funneling illegal campaign contributions from a Russian national into former President Trump’s 2016 campaign. Jesse Benton,… Apparently, he was also big in Rand Paul’s world. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=385) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=387)