# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/761 "2021-02-05T21:25:17Z")
Let’s not argue. Fox/Newsmax/Onan were being fed and directed by Miller and others in the cult’s propaganda ministry. Rupert Murdoch is just as heavy handed as Hearst; Smith at Sinclair is slightly less out there but just as effective. And I got both in my themed death pool. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/762 "2021-02-05T22:35:56Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > They did not name Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity in the lawsuit. They named Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo and Jeanine Pirro. And Rudy, of course. The Dominion complaint against Giuliani from a week or two ago (time has lost all meaning) spends a fair amount of ink preparing for a follow-up suit against Fox and several of its personalities, but they specifically call out Carlson as _not_ being a problem, quoting one of his shows where he pushed back on the most extreme conspiracy-mongering and expressed skepticism that the vote-system companies were anything but straightforward and professional. Now, whether Carlson made that statement at the time because he smelled the crazy and wanted to back himself out of liability is debatable, but he _did_ make that statement, and he _will_ escape being roped into the defamation rodeo. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/763 "2021-02-05T23:14:37Z")
… and can be used to bolster a ‘you knew the truth, Tucker knew the truth, he said you knew the truth, and you defamed us anyway’ argument. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/764 "2021-02-05T23:37:50Z")
!!!@!!! > ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/765 "2021-02-05T23:38:34Z")
Cancel culture is really getting out of hand. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/766 "2021-02-06T00:03:25Z")
I miss the old days when we had Culture Club. This new version is harder to dance to. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/767 "2021-02-06T00:57:04Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > !!!@!!! > > #### [Brian Tyler Cohen (briantylercohen)] > > BREAKING: Fox has canceled Lou Dobbs’ show. > [3:25 PM - 5 Feb 2021](https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1357832691752706048?s=19) 5.8K 890 > > [https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1357832691752706048?s=19](https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1357832691752706048?s=19) You have to wonder if the Fox people did some sort of data analysis and decided that Dobbs had done more lying about Smartmatic than had the other “news” hosts. Or did they just pick a name out of a hat? ‘_If we sacrifice one of them, maybe they’ll go away and leave us alone._…’ Either way, don’t expect to see Jeanine Pirro doing her show sober, anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/768 "2021-02-06T01:19:29Z")
Now can someone please name Carlson and Hannity in a suit, and get them off the air? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/769 "2021-02-06T05:22:45Z")
Biden has [revoked](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html) Trump’s access to daily classified security briefings. Other former presidents will continue to receive them. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/770 "2021-02-06T05:50:02Z")
I kind of wish Trump still got the briefings, but it was only publicly available info: “There was an election in country x” “Toyota is a Japanese car company” “Putin is a dictator” Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/771 "2021-02-06T08:15:11Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > My guess is that it’ll be settled out of court for an undisclosed sum of money Why would either voting machine company involved in this settle? I believe both have already said they won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/772 "2021-02-06T11:53:38Z")
Agree. Their mutual case is basically cast-iron. And they’re not solely interested in a financial solution, they want to recover their reputation. They can’t achieve that with a probably-secret settlement in which the losing party admits no fault publicly. They win only when the defamatory statements are crushed and openly rebuked, which is achievable only with a jury trial. The very unlikely exception would be if Giuliani et al. agree to a settlement including an extensive and highly public apology tour in which they unreservedly confess to having made up the whole thing. I don’t see that happening. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/773 "2021-02-06T14:19:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I kind of wish Trump still got the briefings, but it was only publicly available info: > > “There was an election in country x” > “Toyota is a Japanese car company” > “Putin is a dictator” Or “The McRib is back!” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/774 "2021-02-06T14:22:55Z")
That would be awesome. And I bet Trump wouldn’t notice the difference. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/775 "2021-02-06T15:42:54Z")
He wold still announce, mid-brief, Homer Simpson style: “Boorr-ing!” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/776 "2021-02-06T16:16:12Z")
I was kinda hoping that they’d feed him false information. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/777 "2021-02-06T16:18:38Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > The very unlikely exception would be if Giuliani et al. agree to a settlement including an extensive and highly public apology tour in which they unreservedly confess to having made up the whole thing. I think this is a good template: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lwfuUyTMpVY/maxresdefault.jpg "A Fish Called Wanda (6/11) Movie CLIP - Upside-Down Apology (1988) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwfuUyTMpVY&t=50s) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/778 "2021-02-06T16:22:31Z")
Add battery cables to the testicles and we’re good to go. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/779 "2021-02-06T16:34:14Z")
My wild guess: Fox, hoping to mitigate damages in the upcoming lawsuit (their lawyers have informed them that they are going to lose, and lose bigly), told Lou Dobbs to issue a formal on-air apology and admit he was completely wrong to say that any voting machine company did anything wrong whatsoever. Lou probably refused. Because he is an idiot. Fox fired him. Because they are facing down a multi-billion dollar payout, and Lou’s show is bleeding advertisers and money anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/780 "2021-02-06T16:53:53Z")
You may be right; I hope you are. This could also be a negotiating tactic to extract more money. That said, firing Dobbs is already more than I was expecting so I’m happy to be wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=40)