# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 391
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7807 "2022-11-26T02:10:36Z")
IE see current crop. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7808 "2022-11-26T03:02:54Z")
No matter how terrible his financial situation, there’s no way in the world he would qualify for a public defender. This is a civil lawsuit, anyway, not a criminal prosecution. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7809 "2022-11-26T06:37:42Z")
Chris Christie goes back on the attack on Trump again; only time will tell if - or how soon - he’ll have to backpedal back into Don’s court again. > **[Chris Christie: Trump 'Untenable' Candidate After Dinner With Holocaust...](https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/chris-christie-trump-untenable-candidate-010819941.html)** > > The idea that "any serious candidate for higher public office would meet with him is appalling," the Anti-Defamation League also said. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7810 "2022-11-26T10:41:11Z")
As for Milo Yiannopolis, who has also been hanging around Ye? [Now he’s on an alt-right QVC.](https://www.wonkette.com/amp/milo-yiannopoulos-selling-virgin-marys-on-the-catholic-home-shopping-network-2655552718) TIL I learned there’s an alt-right QVC. Remember when Larry Wilmore told him to go f\*ck himself? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7811 "2022-11-26T13:58:08Z")
Shut up and take my money! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7812 "2022-11-27T04:34:40Z")
The Greatest Moustachioed Person Ever, John Bolton, is heaping on some Trump anti-love. From a Huff-Po article that at present won’t seem to load: > [@](#): > > “Even if they loved his style, loved his approach, loved his policies, loved everything about him, they don’t want to lose, and the fear is, given the results [Nov. 8], that if he got the nomination, not only would he lose the general election, but he would take an awful lot of Republican candidates down with him,” Bolton warned. > [@](#): > > Bolton is one of a growing number of Trump administration “alumni” — including former Attorney General [William Barr] and one-time acting White House Chief of Staff [Mick Mulvaney] — fearful that Trump has become an “electoral liability,” the [Guardian] noted. …and just noticed in a sidebar, from another article that won’t load (USA Today)… Mr. Musk might be doing the _et tu, brute_ on Trump… > [@](#): > > Musk replied “Yes” to a tweet asking him if he would back DeSantis in 2024 after sharing his disappointment with the Biden administration and listing what qualities he’s seeking in 2024. > [@](#): > > “My preference for the 2024 presidency is someone sensible and centrist,” Musk said in a tweet. “I had hoped that would the case for the Biden administration, but have been disappointed so far.” I like how he couched it in a dislike of Biden for his reasoning. Of course Donald would be too blockheaded to see any inference. Then again, after seeing the Ascoted Cravated One’s apparent leaning towards “sensible and centrist”, there could be ketchup issues. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7813 "2022-11-27T15:30:28Z")
I find it interesting that Musk views DeSantis as “sensible and centrist.” 🤨 I view him more as “extreme right-wing fascist” myself. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7814 "2022-11-27T15:47:09Z")
I hope Elon will be soon know as Elon Muskmann-Fried and shown for the right wing Peter Thiel lover he always was. Just wondering how he managed to fool so many people for such a long time. Sensible and centrist, how dare he? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7815 "2022-11-27T16:37:44Z")
30k foot view it appears that the fascist movement is determined to move from Trump - this 2024 run of his has the feel of epilogue about it. The opposition feels _far_ more coordinated than 2016, and _Kanye_ is offering the VP slot to Trump is nothing but an open insult to the ex-President… one made to his face and in his house. 🌋 Everyone except Trump and his base knows that Trump is a loser, and not just a loser, but that he can’t carry MAGA over the finish line in other races. 6 years ago I would have said the best thing Trump could do for his country is die. Now the best thing he can do for his country is… run for President again? Delay the fascist takeover until it runs out of steam? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7816 "2022-11-27T17:08:20Z")
Well you stated the problem for the GOP and anti-trumpets very clearly when you said “Everyone except Trump and **his base** knows that Trump is a loser…” To my thinking if the GOP loses even 15-20% of the MAGA crowd they are screwed for the foreseeable future. Most of the MAGA folks were not even voting before Trump ran, were they? I seem to recall hearing things about how most of that bunch weren’t regular voters. Until the bulk of the MAGA voters pledge allegiance to another candidate I don’t see Trump falling by the wayside. I’ve seen way to many predictions of him being finished in the past to buy it easily this time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7817 "2022-11-27T17:24:02Z")
He isn’t going away (unless he dies, of course), but his _perceived_ ability to win elections for national candidates (including himself) is gone. If he runs for the R’s, they can’t win. If he runs against the R’s, they can’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7818 "2022-11-27T17:30:08Z")
I’ve said multiple times on the boards the only way he doesn’t run is if he’s dead so we agree on that. I’m pretty sure he has a better than 75% chance of getting the GOP nomination. As much as the party leaders know he is damaged goods they are still scared of losing his base. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7819 "2022-11-28T00:32:03Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > 6 years ago I would have said the best thing Trump could do for his country is die Well, if he dies between now and November 2024, a new myth will arise: “President Trump is not dead. Nope, he’s very much alive folks but had to go underground to fool the libs into thinking he’s dead so that they’ll back off and stop their lies. In the meantime, President Trump is staying low and just waiting for the signal!.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7820 "2022-11-28T01:27:06Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If he runs for the R’s, they can’t win. If he runs against the R’s, they can’t win. Which makes me think, the only way the R’s have a chance in 2024 is if Trump is defenestrated. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7821 "2022-11-28T01:29:31Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Well, if he dies between now and November 2024, a new myth will arise: “President Trump is not dead. Nope, he’s very much alive folks Hell, if he does croak before 2024, the Q folks (and their successors) will be talking about the Return of Trump in the year 2100. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7822 "2022-11-28T04:13:12Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > “President Trump is not dead. Nope, he’s very much alive folks but had to go underground to fool the libs into thinking he’s dead so that they’ll back off and stop their lies. In the meantime, President Trump is staying low and just waiting for the signal!.” He must be hanging out with JFK Jr. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7823 "2022-11-28T19:35:43Z")
> **[Georgia candidate Herschel Walker lists TEXAS as his primary residence](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11477721/Herschel-Walker-accused-breaking-Georgia-election-law-listing-TEXAS-primary-residence.html)** > > Herschel Walker is claiming a $1500 tax exemption for living in Texas, even while he runs as the Republican candidate for Senate in Georgia. One of these is true: He committed tax fraud by falsely claiming a tax break on a primary residence in Texas while lving in Georgia OR He committed voter fraud in Georgia by having his primary residence in Texas, ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7824 "2022-11-28T19:36:59Z")
Tax fraud. He’ll repay the taxes, pay any penalties, and this will go away. The man is worth about $35 million, this is an easy problem to solve. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7825 "2022-11-28T23:27:46Z")
Bribe? [https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/demolished-donald-trump-s-41m-florida-compound-and-more-failed-homes/ss-AA14ntpP?cvid=b3f188fa17cb4b79afe37eeed4f59c43#image=12](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/demolished-donald-trump-s-41m-florida-compound-and-more-failed-homes/ss-AA14ntpP?cvid=b3f188fa17cb4b79afe37eeed4f59c43#image=12) ## Donald Trump’s oceanfront compound, Florida, USA The [extravagant beach home] boasted everything from a ballroom, art gallery and 100-foot-long pool to diamond and gold fixtures and a garage with space for 40 cars. Incredibly, the mansion was purchased in 2008 by Russian billionaire **Dmitry Rybolovlev for the inflated price of $95 million, $54 million more than Trump initially paid for it, despite the property having a serious mold problem** Bolding mine. He paid 41 million over asking price on a property that was not worth the asking price? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7826 "2022-11-28T23:29:43Z")
Probably closer to loan sharking and/or tax dodging. What purpose is served by bribing Trump in 2008? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=390) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=392)