# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 393
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7847 "2022-11-29T19:11:24Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Means nothing since it rarely gains him anything, and if and when it actually goes to court, often gets his own lawyers in trouble. He’s probably just digging his hole deeper. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7848 "2022-11-29T19:16:37Z")
Except that he likes the results he gets, mostly publicity and inconveniencing the other side. In other words, there is a (obnoxious and stupid) method to his madness. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7849 "2022-11-29T19:17:47Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > He’s probably just digging his hole deeper. Maybe Jack Smith will be the guy driving the bulldozer that fills up the hole, with Trump in it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7850 "2022-11-29T19:21:01Z")
It is now being reported that Kanye West campaign advisor Milo Yianoppolous _set Trump up_ in the dinner with Fuentes. Milo was of the opinion that this would damage Trump and that he would mishandle the controversy. In addition, it seems that Kanye’s sole purpose was to piss Trump off while Nick was droning about how Trump is disappointing his most loyal supporters. So you had Kanye taunting Trump that he (Kanye) is going to steal Trump’s white supremacist supporters while Fuentes was _also_ prodding Trump to go even _more_ WS. Great, great stuff: > **[The inside story of Trump’s explosive dinner with Ye and Nick Fuentes](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/story-trumps-explosive-dinner-ye-nick-fuentes-rcna59010)** > > What was supposed to be a private dinner ended up being a political nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7851 "2022-11-29T19:52:13Z")
I have to wonder if Kanye has anyone around him who isn’t using/ manipulating him? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7852 "2022-11-29T20:05:02Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I have to wonder if Kanye has anyone around him who isn’t using/ manipulating him? - What other reason would make anyone want to be anywhere near him? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7853 "2022-11-29T20:41:07Z")
Money, but I guess that’s kinda the same answer. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7854 "2022-11-29T20:49:54Z")
Trying to figure out how this would help Kanye… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7855 "2022-11-29T21:13:16Z")
I can’t seem to find anything online yet but NBC News Radio\* just reported that Pence has refused to endorse Trump for 2024, saying that he will have better options available and might run himself. \*I gotta remember “News” goes before “Radio” there. The streaming audio I listen to while working used to have AP Radio News, thus my confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7856 "2022-11-29T21:18:32Z")
Here’s a [CNN link.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/20/politics/mike-pence-support-donald-trump-2024-presidential-election) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7857 "2022-11-29T21:21:48Z")
👍 No wonder I couldn’t find it. NBC specifically said “endorse” whereas CNN doesn’t and that’s from last month. Did something happen today which prompted Pence to be more specific? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7858 "2022-11-29T21:22:04Z")
Quite schadenfraude-y! > **[Kanye West said the IRS put a $75 million hold on 4 of his accounts because...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/entertainment/kanye-west-said-irs-put-055859593.html)** > > The rapper said he found out how much he owed the IRS, then went to his "CFOs" to try to find out if not paying taxes would be tax evasion. Maybe not the most gigantic chunk out of what he still might have, but surely enough to make him go _OOF!_ ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7859 "2022-11-29T21:54:08Z")
There are some priceless quotes in that article. Like this one: > And then they said you owe a lot of taxes. Took me, like, six hours to find out how much ‘a lot’ was. Naturally, whenever the IRS sends out an official notification of tax debt by registered mail, this is always exactly what they say: “You owe _ **a lot** _ of taxes. Dude.” Then our genius added the following: > … he went to the “different CFOs” involved in his businesses to find out if not paying taxes would be tax evasion. Of course not! Cheating on your taxes is the most legal, patriotic thing you can do. Just ask your orange flag-humping dinner companion! I’m guessing that the total amount of brain matter assembled at that dinner, all put together, might amount to about half of a normal human. And that Kanye, aka “Ye”, was contributing even less than the orange insurrectionist. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7860 "2022-11-29T23:03:28Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Did something happen today which prompted Pence to be more specific? [I guess it was yesterday, in Chicago.](https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2022/11/28/23483211/ex-vice-president-mike-pence-in-chicago-takes-jabs-at-trump-kanye-west-nick-fuentes-apology) Nothing about withholding endorsement there, either, though. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7861 "2022-11-29T23:49:02Z")
Never mind, from 2021 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7862 "2022-11-30T00:05:43Z")
All that proves is his lawyers are insane. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7863 "2022-11-30T01:11:23Z")
How often has a president’s former VP said they shouldn’t be reelected? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7864 "2022-11-30T01:22:23Z")
Never mind, was wrong about something… ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7865 "2022-11-30T02:23:04Z")
Something like the reverse happened: > Asked at a news conference in 1960, when Nixon was the Republican presidential nominee, to cite a “major idea” of his that Eisenhower had adopted, Ike famously answered, half-joking, “If you give me a week, I might think of one. I don’t remember.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7866 "2022-11-30T02:44:37Z")
> **[Dr. Oz Wants His TV Show Back, But He Beclowned Himself Too Hard in Politics](https://www.yahoo.com/news/dr-oz-wants-tv-show-170000121.html)** > > Dr. Mehmet Oz left his syndicated TV show to pursue a deeply embarrassing run for Senate in Pennsylvania—where he does not live—and spent nearly $27 million of his own money, before losing the state by a bigger margin than Donald Trump did in 2020.... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=392) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=394)