# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
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Beclowning oneself is typically a solo activity and if you do it in private, you are typically OK. It’s when you beclown yourself in a public setting that there can be repercussions. Oz was a perpetual public beclowner.

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Hell, I hear that he did in once in a grocery store, _on camera_, and he shared the video publicly himself.

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Is anyone down to 🤡?

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> It’s actually ‘Garner’, but you are correct. Garner ran against FDR in 1932 in the primary, and then did the same thing in1940.

Well, at least he didn’t run against him in '36…

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> Interesting aside: Garner began his political career as as the county judge of Uvalde County, Texas.

It’s a small country.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
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> [@solost](#):
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/30/politics/house-ways-and-means-committee-now-has-donald-trumps-federal-tax-returns/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/30/politics/house-ways-and-means-committee-now-has-donald-trumps-federal-tax-returns/index.html)

I have my doubts about that. After all, how could they be given to the Committee when they’re under audit!

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> It’s the hot chocolate topped with fresh from scratch whipped cream of schadenfreude for me!

_Schadenfreude mit Schlage._

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> how could they be given to the Committee when they’re under audit!

That would be illegal, according to the orange dumpster fire. Who would never do anything illegal.

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > It’s actually ‘Garner’, but you are correct. Garner ran against FDR in 1932 in the primary, and then did the same thing in1940.
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> Well, at least he didn’t run against him in '36…
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> > Interesting aside: Garner began his political career as as the county judge of Uvalde County, Texas.
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> It’s a small country.

Even smaller, if one is trying to cite, as interesting information about some historical figure, a locale in which no mass-shootings have taken place.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Well, presidents in the past didn’t need to hide them.

Recent past, at least. Romney was the first _candidate_ to release his taxes, Nixon the first President. Since then all have voluntarily disclosed their taxes except Ford and Trump.

[Cite](https://www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-presidents-and-candidates/)

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John Wayne Gacy

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> I have my doubts about that. After all, how could they be given to the Committee when they’re under audit!

I have genuinely forgotten why they wanted them in the first place.

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But how much can they do with the taxes before the Republicans come in to make them disappear? Better get cracking!

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Someone could leak them. I certainly hope that happens.

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Someone could leak them. I certainly hope that happens

Everyone in Washington assumes that’s going to happen.

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Someone could leak them. I certainly hope that happens.

Why do they have to leak them? Can’t the committee just release them?

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I would have guessed that if they discovered something illegal they have to report it to the competent prosecutor. Would that not be their duty? And the prosecutor would have to explain why he is formally accusing Trump of whatever (or, heaven forbid, why not), so at least the illegal part\* would have to be made public. Otherwise there would be a secret trial and that is very unamerican, probably even unconstitutional, is it not?

\*And if the illegal part is released, knowing TFG as I think I do, _everything_ will have to be released. Because the total illegality is bigger than the sum of the individual felonies, high crimes and misdemeanors.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Can’t the committee just release them?

Pretty sure no - tax returns are private information. My understanding is the committee has access to them for whatever reasons they gave to the courts. Any additional use of them would probably need to be vetted also.

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And as far as I know, that damn audit is _still_ going on.

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My private hope is that the W & M Committee will discover some shenanigans have been going on with the audits that didn’t completely follow the IRS code. Perhaps shenanigans over which the Secretary of the Treasury would have had oversight.

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what the committee can do is pass them on to the senate committee. that way work can continue after the new congress takes control.

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