# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 398
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7947 "2022-12-02T16:38:39Z")
Did you pronounce it “Kan-Yee”? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7948 "2022-12-02T16:50:43Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Point of order: [Ye (pronounced “yay”) is his proper name, not a pronoun.](https://deadline.com/2021/10/kanye-changes-name-ye-1234857751/) I’m not sure that it’s really a _proper_ name. . Now, “Harrison Wentworth III, Lord Puftie of the Exmoor Downs”… that’s a proper name. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7949 "2022-12-02T19:06:16Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Now, “Harrison Wentworth III, Lord Puftie of the Exmoor Downs”… that’s a proper name. Don’t give him any ideas… ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7950 "2022-12-02T19:19:01Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Now, “Harrison Wentworth III, Lord Puftie of the Exmoor Downs”… that’s a proper name. Wait a minute! How did you know my dog’s name? Do I know you? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7951 "2022-12-02T21:37:10Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Mental illness is not an excuse for being a racist asshole for sure. That just reminds me of this… [https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/health/ambien-roseanne-barr-racist-tweets-bn](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/health/ambien-roseanne-barr-racist-tweets-bn) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7952 "2022-12-03T00:59:37Z")
I thought it was supposed to be pronounced “thee”. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7953 "2022-12-03T01:32:47Z")
Ye is an abbreviation, intended to be pronounced the same way it is in the full name Kanye. It’s not technically an abbreviation because he changed his name to that. But the origin is an abbreviation of his name. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7954 "2022-12-03T02:38:39Z")
I was continuing with **74westy** ’s allusion to the older pronunciation of the word, not the abbreviation. Thanks for the information on how West came up with that moniker; I’d never heard that before. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7955 "2022-12-03T02:54:25Z")
I pronounce it “shithead” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7956 "2022-12-03T06:39:42Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Point of order: [Ye (pronounced “yay”) is his proper name, not a pronoun.](https://deadline.com/2021/10/kanye-changes-name-ye-1234857751/) O Ye of little faith. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7957 "2022-12-03T11:51:37Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > All this time I’ve been pronouncing it “the.” 🤦‍♂️ > [@Monty](#): > > I thought it was supposed to be pronounced “thee”. Sounds like a _thorn_-y question. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7958 "2022-12-03T12:52:10Z")
Very good! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7959 "2022-12-03T17:17:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Sounds like a _thorn_-y question. Noice. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7960 "2022-12-03T18:09:50Z")
What did iDJiT know and when did he know it? Could any of this be reflected in those tax returns? [https://www.reuters.com/legal/trumps-company-benefited-tax-fraud-prosecutor-says-end-trial-2022-12-02/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/trumps-company-benefited-tax-fraud-prosecutor-says-end-trial-2022-12-02/) > Joshua Steinglass, from the Manhattan district attorney’s office, told jurors in his closing argument that the scheme helped Trump’s company keep salaries down, shift tax deductions to Trump entities such as his Mar-a-Lago club, reduce payroll taxes, and keep executives happy and loyal. > Steinglass told jurors that Trump executives other than Weisselberg were involved, saying the company’s chief operating officer and a former general counsel received Christmas bonuses as if they were independent contractors. > > If convicted on all nine counts it faces, Trump’s company faces up to $1.6 million in fines. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7961 "2022-12-03T18:18:21Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Very good! I’ve thought it weird that the letter for a voiced th is pronounced without one, or was thorn pronounced ðɔrn? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7962 "2022-12-03T18:52:19Z")
> **[White supremacist Nick Fuentes slams 'divorced woman girlboss' Marjorie...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/white-supremacist-nick-fuentes-slams-162149878.html)** > > White nationalist Nick Fuentes described Marjorie Taylor Greene as "weak" and attention-seeking after she denounced his virulently antisemitic views. > [@](#): > > Nick Fuentes, a [white supremacist organizer](https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/nicholas-j-fuentes-five-things-know) who says he is [working on the 2024 presidential campaign of Ye,](https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-goes-to-work-for-kanye-west-after-trump-dinner-at-mar-a-lago) formerly known as Kanye West, turned on Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene after she condemned him earlier this week. So, Ye really _is_ working on a presidential run? Organinzed by a nazi? Anyway… > [@](#): > > “[MTG]'ll go and say something edgy to get attention, and when the pressure comes, she buckles,” he said. Fuentes told viewers of the online show that he is now “over” Greene. “Over” her? Hope there was no love lost. Bittersweet, anyway. > [@](#): > > “She wants to be the face of Christian nationalism. She’s divorced, and she’s actively an adulterer,” he continued. “How are you going to be the face of Christian nationalism when you’re a divorced woman girlboss? It doesn’t even make any sense. I’m so glad I don’t have to pretend to support that anymore.” YEAH! How are you gonna ride the X-tian natinoalism banner if you can’t even please a nazi for crying out loud! “girlboss” = man-childspeak? “that” = a most deserving pronoun. Marjorie, indignant: > [@](#): > > “Of course, I denounce Nick Fuentes and his racist, anti-semitic ideology,” she tweeted on Wednesday. Speaking on her own show, Greene described Fuentes as “racist” and “immature” and asked why Ye would “align himself with that.” And, quite possibly, the most outlandish quote I’ve read in a while (a butthurt NF whining over MTG’s last-minute backing out from attending the Trump/Ye/Fuentes meeting last week): > [@](#): > > “When it was the hottest thing in the world, she would do anything to be a part of it,” he claimed. “But the second it got a little bit uncomfortable when the swastikas came out…Not even. Before the swastikas came out. Then she goes, ‘oh, actually, I denounce,’ and it’s just so predictable.” 🤣 🤣 🤣 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7963 "2022-12-03T19:30:11Z")
He’s also nicknaming her “Large Marge.” Which is about the level of wit I’d expect. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7964 "2022-12-03T19:35:07Z")
-checks forum- I’d pay good money for a Thunderdome match with all involved Ye, MGT, Fuentes, and Trump. “Three men enter… err, is that a man? It looks like a rad-ravaged 'roo? You’re sure? Okay, Three men and one woman enter, one leaves… Wait? What’s this note? Oh, I see. Sure. Ahem, Two men enter, one scabby 'roo, and one woman, and whomever lives to the end will take on all challengers!” ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7965 "2022-12-03T19:40:40Z")
“Three Toes enters …” ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7966 "2022-12-03T19:58:26Z")
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